Bungy32

Bungy32

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Why should we have to *prove* anything to the rest of the world? This, I think, is at the heart of the differences that split the country. I can buy this nationalist (isolationist) argument as at least a consistent and coherent position when it comes also with a primary focus on our own country. But w

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This seems a bit silly to me. Even if Kerry did have notes (and I am not saying he did), what could they really have done for him? To claim such evidence means he's "lost the whole ball game" seems to hinge all of this on a pretty minor detail. To make too much of this point seems, well, desperate. And I would caution my GOP friends that the last thing you want is for your team to appear desperate, especially while you are still positioned so well.

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You are just stretching to turn a FAILED article you started a few days back to provoke "outrage" into something that will garner you a couple more points. It's sad, frankly. Fox News took care of the situation before anyone could even comment on it. Um, I thinik the point is that comments about this ar

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most on the left belittle Bush as an ignorant stupid bufoon, Thanks for the "most." As someone on the Left, I have never posted that President Bush is an "ignorant, stupid buffoon" or words to that effect. Moreover, I think those who do so fall into a dang

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I think you make a very persuasive case for the conclusions you draw. While I agree that a draw is a possibility, I also think there is enough opportunity in these debates to do something that could tip the statistical dead heat either direction. That something could be something positive, but in all likelihood it will be something negative -- some flaw of either candidate that the spin-meisters and media can latch onto. 5000 blog sites, e

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Nope, no alienation here. I think you've hit the nail on the head. There seems to be plenty of "if you're not with us, you're against us" rhetoric on both (all) sides. I tend to think there is more diversity on both the Right and the Left than either side tends to give the other credit for. And there is still greater diversity "in the middle." Still, I think it is easier to argue if you can make the issues be "black and white." It is then subsequ

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You guys do realize that he is not the original author, right? Bag on him for sharing it, if you must, but don't bag on him for writing the piece. Sheesh. THANK-YOU! I am so tired of being told I don't read newspaper stories, links, or blog articles closely enough...but then the same people who tend to

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Will 90mins really do anything for him. From what I have seen on JU, people are very passionate about their politics, and I don't think tey will be that easily swayed. I don't really think the discussions here are representative of the folks who haven't made up their minds. Blogs and BBS seem to be pla

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Hmm. Yes, but the problem is that the evidence that was stressed as justification for invading Iraq as quickly as possible (in early 2003) was that the weapons were there, ready for deployment., posing an immediate threat to the US and world stability. That, to my way of thinking (and I don't think I am exactly alone on this), is an important distinction. No, Wingman, you need not make some convoluted (and, again, speculative) argu

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The Left enjoys the outspokeness of Celebrities, yes. As you indicate, the Right enjoys the outspokeness of quite a few too. So what's your point? Oh yeah, and the Right actually elects celebrities to office (Ronald Reagan, Sonny Bono, Arnold Schwartzenegger, "Gopher" from Love Boat...) Not that I begrudge this point. I just think it is interesting how many folks complain about clebrity political opinions...until those opinions agre

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You should appreciate it. If I didn't, you wouldn't. P.S. I think your articles are insightful, too, but I don't think you know much about the people you talk about. You act like you are debating a caracature. It's all right there, isn't it? I

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but the lunatic fringe of the gay movement want none of that. They prefer the "This is just how gay I can be publicly!" meme Okay, but see that's the fringe. EVERY group has them. And if you judge the whole group by the behaviors or rhetoric of the fringe, then we're all screwed. Also, "This

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I think I am doing pretty well just acknowledging your existence as you keep accusing me of wanting to "eradicate the Left". geez... Oh, thank-you. More Rightwing noblesse oblige . You acknowledge I exist. That's just ...so...touching...

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Mistaken about what?.... (snip) By the way you were defending it and the words you used, I just figured you and dabe were the same person. And that's about as close to a retraction as you are ever likely to get, I guess. Not really an admission of a mistake; more an accusation that I sound too much li

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Let me make this clear, anyone who Godwin’s this article will be permanently blacklisted . Great link to a great term for a common phenomenon. My partner and I call a similar phenomenon "Argumentum ad Auschwitz." That's when any argument

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Ur... considering you posted a shamefully black-and-white article, you expected a lot of grey responses? Read your junk again. You posted caustic, you got caustic. First, I didn't post the article. dabe did. And it was a re-post at that. I was just responding to it. Like you. And not

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Actually that is the dumbest, most ignorant stereotype going. next thing you are going to say, in your own ingnorant way, is that republicans were against the civil rights act. Do you f--king read????? I opened the door to the kind of post Madine was able

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(in addition to being a bit silly, you are proud of things you accomplish, not the things you are (anologous to the ridiculous concept behind "race" pride rallies and suchlike) ) BTW, being open about your sexuality when it goes against what the bulk of your culture says is "right" is an accompl

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I agree that this is sort of a cycle or feedback loop. And I appreciate that you call into question straight communities' participation in that "push." I guess I just worry that your other two examples of so-called overcompensation are about addiction. Implicitly, I worry that you are alligning GLBT identity with physical or mental incapacity or dependency. And that is not how I experience my queer identity, even at its most sex-positive extremes.

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After reading this, I'm wondering how you would know anything about Republicans... or life, for that matter... You aren't one, and whether you have one or not is kind of up in the air with me... Lovely. That's just so helpful. I admit, the article makes only a pretense at actually "knowing" a republi

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I am not sure I think I can separate myself from my politics. I could join the bandwagon here and assert "I have several friends who are conservative" and I wouldn't be lying. But these are largely friendships based on "don't go there" topics. Or, at best, playful teasing and baiting about issues. But these friendships only make it if we both admit that the other is entitled to their position -- and that we recognize when to back off on pushing an

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This is a very interesting article, all the more so for being written with some sensitivity from outside GLBT identity. I am not sure I agree that the gay community is "broken" since I don't think it ever actually "worked." Part of the problem may come from an implicit assumption in your opening caveat: What you do beh

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*sigh* Gloating is such a good use of a blog (not!). Especially unjustified and premature gloating. Thankyou for that useful and meaningful contribution to our "civil" public discourse (not!).

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