Cikomyr

Reply to A Declaration of U.S. Independance From Israel in Politics JoeUser Forums

(1) Is merely a statement of facts. In history, about the war of 1973. There isn't anything discutable about it, the USA DID gave a huge amount to Israel in order to save them. 2.2 Billion dollars, at the time, was an extremely high sum when you think of it. (2) Is debatable. I don't think OPEC effectively said why they caused the crisis. However, fact remain that OPEC is formed by many, many countries who are (still) officially opposed to the creation of Israel, and OPEC hold the Oil's

Reply to A Declaration of U.S. Independance From Israel in Politics JoeUser Forums

What's OCR? [quote]WHile I think he posted it because of a frustration of the symbiotic relationship between the US and israel, I dont think he is really a bigot.[/quote] I'd call it rather a "parasitic relationship", since in a symbiose, both parties has to gain something out of it. All right, we're going to flesh out the anti-Israeli comments in this articles, and debate a little about some facts that there's in it. I'll number the paragraphs 1, 2, 3 etc... in order

Reply to A Declaration of U.S. Independance From Israel in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]With all of this information out there you sit there reposting hateful articles, I was right when I said you were racist in another article we debated. The first one could have meant you were misguided or misinformed but this one is so blatant that I no longer have any doubt.[/quote] Could you remember me which article was it? Hey, I haven't wrote that stuff up there. I merely copied it from the magazine. I haven't had the time to post my own thoughts about it.

Reply to A Declaration of U.S. Independance From Israel in Politics JoeUser Forums

Ok.. my fingers hurt for re-copying all that in 45 minutes. I'll post my own thoughts tommorrow.. arg..

A Declaration of U.S. Independance From Israel in Politics JoeUser Forums

From The Washingtown Report, Written by Chris Hedges (1) Israel, without the United States, would probably not exist. The country came perilously close to extinction during the October 1973, war when Egypt, trained and backed by the Soviet Union, crossed the Suez Canal and the Syrians poured in fover theGolan Heights. Huge American military transport planes came to the rescue. They began landing every half-hour to refit the battered Israeli army, which had lost most of it

Reply to Where do you score in Politics JoeUser Forums

I am one dot over the middle. Quite centrist..

Reply to Here We Go Again in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]I live in Florida and when you come into our state there are rather large billboards informing people that Florida residents have a legal right to use deadly force to defend themselves and their property. Amazing how much violent crimes and robberies have dropped since that law was enacted.[/quote] how many people died of accidental shooting since that law was enacted, as opposed to before?

Reply to McCain will help the free market. Obama will destroy it. in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]After reading all this you really want to say that you live in an oligarchy?[/quote] Well.. I am in a Gulf country right now. Oligarchy = power within the hands of a few elite. I think the Sheik governement system applies for Oligarchy. [quote]When I started to smoke cigarettes cost 50 cents a pack. Now they cost 2.50 a pack[/quote] Well, when you started to smoke cigarettes, when was that? Don't you think the general prices in your society has increased since?

Reply to The Failure of Capitalism 2: Football (the american sort) in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]As for football, what you call socialism, is actually still capitalism, and also regulated out of most of the markets of capitalism. It is called collusion. It is what Oligopolies do and they are illegal in almost all other markets in capitalism. But they are exempt in football through legislation. That does not say it is right or wrong, only that it is the way the lawmakers (who are always anti-capitalist in reality if not in words) have done it.[/quote] Are you sure of it? Come

Reply to McCain will help the free market. Obama will destroy it. in Politics JoeUser Forums

All right, I'll give other counters when I'll have more time.. [quote]The problem is who is to decide what is good or bad for society? I want a product and the product is legal who is anyone to say I can’t have it?[/quote] Generally, something good or bad is something that is considered detrimental to the lifes of the citizens. For example, cocaine is bad, because it can lead quickly to the destruction of life. Same for many drugs. You can widen that argument by saying

Reply to The Failure of Capitalism! in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]The truth is they know it all and they know what they are doing and they are very clever in decieving[/quote] I am not so sure. I think they all want something good for their countries, but it's just that they don't see things the same way we do. They may see some arguments as personnal attacks on their beliefs/way of thinking, which is why they sometime close like oysters to any argumental logic. but I do not think there is deception on their parts (at least, the vast m

The Failure of Capitalism 2: Football (the american sort) in Politics JoeUser Forums

You people on this board mostly consider capitalism to be the best (or at least, the less worst) society organisation. I think many Americans think like you.. After all, that was what your country was based upon, and the recent ideological war you fought against the Soviet Empire made the USA quite paranoiac about anything that gets close to any kind of socialism. You consider socialism to be.. "unfair". Well, it is. The point of socialism is to have everybody have access to the same

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Wait, I have a good idea... Let's use an example they will understand..

Reply to McCain will help the free market. Obama will destroy it. in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]So your plan it to be a fascist, controlling the world for everyone’s own good?[/quote] Off course not. I plan for the people controlling the world. The citizens, the voters. Are you an oligarchist, willing to leave every society's leaning and directions into the sole hands to CEOs? [quote]People are fat because they choose to be unless they have a medical reason. putting less sugar in food is not the cure. People will do what makes them feel good regardless of what YOU

Reply to Danish Cartoons in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]I would be considered a nutcase.[/quote] [size="1"]well I consider those people nutcase...[/size]

Reply to EU lifts sanctions against Cuba in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]We never had it. Hard to lose what you never had.[/quote] something small is still bigger than nothing. Trading with Cuba, for example, would still have made them dependant on your well being. But when you stopped trading with them, they had nothing else to loose to you. [quote]And sleeping with sleeze balls will get you condemned as well if you are America. Damned if you do, and damned if you dont. We are the bad guys in Darfur. Why? The rest of the world yawns, and bla

Reply to EU lifts sanctions against Cuba in Current Events JoeUser Forums

[quote]So why dont you now prove to the world how they are being altruistic with Raul.[/quote] Well, my original point was that having trade relations with another contry will probably give you a lot more influence over it (or it's governement) than cutting ties with it. America DO have a lot of influence over S.A. (but I am really wondering who is having the more influence over the other ;)), and it would be a totally bad idea to stop trading with them over the topic of human

Reply to McCain will help the free market. Obama will destroy it. in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Keep in mind that Cikomyr is responding based on his Liberal side that is all about feelings. He would hope businesses, which exist solely to make money, would actually care about their customer's health as oppose to how much money they can get from them.[/quote] Please don't assume, or you'll make an ass of you. Those kind of condescendant tones are really annoying. Cut it out. Off course I don't think the companies actually care about the people's health. But

Reply to McCain will help the free market. Obama will destroy it. in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Do you really believe this?[/quote] Yhea. Food producers have a chance to supply less sugar-saturated products, advertising both "cheaper" and "better for the health".

Reply to McCain will help the free market. Obama will destroy it. in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Less sugar for the food market means higher prices for foods that use sugar.[/quote] Or less sugar into the darn food. Ever seen how much sugar is in every single freaking product you buy?

Reply to Gays in the military in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]I like to clean mine every month at least too.[/quote] What do you take? I personnally love to read CommunistTimes, just to be sure I remain the way I am :D /joke

Reply to Gays in the military in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]YOu cannot "Make" anyone do anything. Sweden was and is a very open society when it comes to homosexuality. This man was not ashamed of being "outed" to the public, but to his mother. And unless you are going to institute forced re-education camps, you cannot change that attitude. It is not something that society is doing, but the individual.[/quote] hey, brainwashing camp sounds a lotta fun, but I don't think it's the real answer either ;) But we can "make" the society

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[quote]The last 60 years things have mellowed a bit[/quote] I am not so sure anymore. The USA have adopted a pretty paranoi attitude toward foreigners. Ever tried to step on a plane from outside the country that goes in USA? Even if it's merely for a connection, you're into 3-4 hours of custom hell BEFORE ENTERING THE PLANE. I make it a point to avoid all connection in America. Not for any political reason, but because I prefer to be treated like a human being.

Reply to McCain will help the free market. Obama will destroy it. in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Yup a brilliant idea to trade food for fuel.[/quote] Hey, don't look at me. Personnally, I'm against the Maize ethanol. It's totally inneficient. Sugar ethanol is a much better and efficient product. On the other hand, Sugar ethanol isn't produced in america, so no one in your borders are really interested hearing about it.. If you found a way to make sugar (the food product) extremely more expensive by turning all the sugar production toward fuel, I think we ma

Reply to Gays in the military in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]During WWII I think it was the Germans that found out a Swede diplomat was gay. They threatened to tell his mother if he did not help them. All during the war any information that was shared with Sweden was given to Germany. At the end of the war this was discovered and from that point on governments went on a gay hunt. The man betrayed his country to keep from breaking his mothers heart and that example proved that gays were a security risk. As the hunting went on people believed that if