[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="117" id="3177807"]I finally figured out that the bible supports evolution much more than one imaginary god [/quote] There is nothing in favor of evolution to justify doubting the direct formation of the first humans by God. [quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="119" id="3177817"]Lula, you don't try to prove much other than you believe every mistranslated word in the bible to be infallibly true. [/quote] See that's just it.
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[quote who="Jythier" reply="116" id="3177743"]Lula, to be fair, the serpent didn't exist at all if the books aren't true. [/quote] What????? Of course, the serpent certainly existed...and that truth has no bearing at all on the Books of the Bible. That is to say this truth was known before long before we had the written Books. How do we know that then? By God's religion. Man has always had a religion taught by God. Adam and Eve were instruc
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[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="114" id="3177457"]There doesn't need to be specific mention of them for us to understand that Lucifer possessed a serpent to deceive Eve.[/quote] [quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="114" id="3177457"]Circular logic is an amazing self-sustaining trap.[/quote] Regarding my comment # 111, it's a lawful spiral argument of which the ends do not meet. [quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="114" id="3177457"]You bring
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="12" id="3177466"] I just thought this post was about the 'freedom of religion' ..[/quote] It is, however, these topics or issues are all connected with freedom of religion. [quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="12" id="3177466"]If you really 'believe' cell clusters are babies, I guess you didn't pay enough attention to the clip.[/quote] THIS SHOULD ANSWER IT.
[quote who="LORD-ORION" reply="8" id="3175648"]Cell clusters are not babies. [/quote] Yes, they are. Science has confirmed that new human life is complete at fertilization. You and I were at that stage of our life's development. http://www.theospark.net/2011
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="110" id="3177375"]I have no problem saying the same about evolution, difference is I can prove and you just believe what you are told to believe.[/quote] GFTESS, Back to evolution...I thought you were weary of discussing evolution. I know I am. ANYWAY,,,, No you can't prove Darwin's "change beyond kind" evolution. Do you know how really, really famous you would be if you could? No one has proven evolu
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="101" id="3176332"]Genesis 3 [/quote] [quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="108" id="3177146"]PS; “TO the rest of mankind … not sure they were mentioned in this section but somehow we were all included, forever??? There is no mention of Lucifer, Satan or the devil in here either???”[/quote] There doesn't need to be specific mention of them for us to understand that Lucifer possessed a serpent to deceive Eve. [quote
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="100" id="3174984"]Lula, I understand perfectly where you are coming from, been there done that and never going back.[/quote] Never? Never say never! Certainly not about something as important as this is! ................................
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="36" id="3173788"]Quoting Jythier, reply 18 Israel is its own Biblical concept, while the church is a completely different Biblical concept, and putting the one into the other is incorrect, in my estimation. [/quote] [quote who="Jythier" reply="44" id="3174882"]Lula, things are going to change for Isreal. God isn't done with them. He's just set them aside for the time being. And there's no passages in those Epistl
[quote who="Jythier" reply="44" id="3174882"]Lula, things are going to change for Isreal. [/quote] So what? For that matter, things are going to change for every nation. It's not about God changing nations. God is not interested in nations. It's about souls. Individual souls. Ever since the Fall, the epic battle that has been waging is for souls. Almighty God the Father is interested in souls that they may be saved and come to the kno
[quote who="Jythier" reply="5" id="3174137"] In my house, fertilized eggs should always have a welcoming environment, but I'll do what I can to keep them unfertilized.[/quote] OoooKay! ........................................................................................................... See what you think of this article.... What’s behind the HHS mandate? B
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="34" id="3173360"]on page 27, Thigpen sumarizes the eccentric beliefs of LaHaye and Jenkins: "These two authors believe that Christ will invisibly snatch true believers and innocent children, both living and dead, up into Heaven. Their divine abduction will cause massive, worldwide turmoil, and once they are gone, the devil will be free to take control of the world through his puppet, the Antichrist. Gross horrors will accompany this man's wicked
[quote who="AERYCK" reply="37" id="3173939"]Excellent! According to Dee Dee Warren's study resources at PreterisSite ; Currie's book has '.... an appendix refuting hyperpreterism' Though, I've haven't read this book or Thigpen's "The Rapture Trap" , I hope to read them once I'm through [/quote] Yes, I've read and underlined a good many parts of Currie's appendix on hyperpreterism. Currie's book is dyn-o-mit
Jythier nailed it. Exterminating humanity is the objective of the HHS mandate and of all the attacks against God, the Church and Christian morality. To accomplish this they must dissolve religious liberty and force any doctor, company, institution to participate in abortion, contraception, euthanasia.
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="98" id="3173769"]I know it was a typo I just couldn’t help myself.[/quote] Ha, ha, that's what I like about you. I think I call it a wrap.
[quote who="AERYCK" reply="15" id="3171789"]the book of Revelation and the passages in Matthew, Mark and various other books in the Christian sacred texts might be more consistent with an Orthodox interpretation referred to as Preterism. 'Preterism is a Christian eschatological view that interprets prophecies of the Bible, especiallyDaniel and Revelation, as events which have already happened in the first century A.D. Preterism holds
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="96" id="3173387"]Quoting lulapilgrim, reply 95 You haven't been able to prove that God, did reveal His written word through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost upon the human writers I know, and neither have you???[/quote] Ha, that was a typo slip....should have been ....You haven't been able to prove that God did not reveal His written word through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost upon the human writers. ................
[quote who="AERYCK" reply="15" id="3171789"] My own studies of the whole Bible have led me to conclude that there is not going to be a rapture (Edit Add: at least the way that some pre-millennialists describe it) and that the coming of Jesus will coincide with and end time resurrection similar to that taught in the Old Testament. [/quote] I've come to the same conclusion, although as far as the Bible and the endtimes, in addition to my own studies, I rely on the Church
[quote who="Jythier" reply="16" id="3171822"]This is a 5 year old post....[/quote] Yes, and I missed it in 2007 and I had already been on board JU for a few months. [quote who="AERYCK" reply="17" id="3171948"]So, I'm 54 and thinking. [/quote] [quote who="AERYCK" reply="15" id="3171789"]I know this is a rather old post but as this is a discussion. [/quote] Exactly. Glad you resurrected Infogreek's original article. [quote who="AERYCK"
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="94" id="3172462"]When religious folk ponder Genesis 1 and 2, we get what we see throughout this post. Apologists trying to make them work … and they just don’t. When I look at them I see two different versions of creation that were obviously important enough to include them both. The purely human attempt to try and blend the views is obvious. And no matter what anyone believes … there was only one ‘creation’. Since both versio
My thoughts on the Rapture coming up.
[quote who="GirlFriendTess" reply="91" id="3172342"]I am still waiting for some proof that any god exists [/quote] What I'm about to say comes from St. Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica. .the pocket edition is called "My Way of Life. In it he gives 5 proofs. Some think that proof must be seen or touched, but not necessarily so. We all have reason and intelligence and can appreciate intellectual evidence. Right reason can detect sufficient evi
[quote who="Jythier" reply="73" id="3171461"]How did life begin?[/quote] To answer this a person can either believe in Creation on the basis of faith in God.... For the believer, Genesis adequately answers the question. God created life, plant, animal and human life. As far as human life, Genesis 1: 26; 2:7 tells us when God created them male and female, He said, "Let us make man to Our image and likeness , ...and the Lord formed</stron
[quote] DAY 7: God the all-powerful and all-knowing had to rest on the Sabbath to recover His weariness from creating everything from nothing out of the darkness of nothingness. Oh did I mention that in time because God was so exhausted from what should have been a finger snap, that he would have put to death anyone who is bold enough to work on Sunday, go figure. As we are just into Genesis part 2 of 50 … there is quite a bit to cover still