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Reply to The End of the Republic, As We Know It in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] Why must you people insist on being so deliberately obtuse?...What is it with you guys and wanting to free people who hate and want to kill you, and destroy your way of life, so that they can go back to actively trying? [/quote] It's obtuse to want even the slightest bit of evidence that these people are in fact terrorists, and haven't been falsely accused?! Meanwhile your blind faith that there are never miscarriages of justice, and that all of t

Reply to Betrayal of Martin Luther King in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] The article is not about calling him black...It is getting tiresome trying to direct people back to the point of the article [/quote] From your OP (again): [quote] It is the fault of the liberals and Mainstream media that must force us to think of him not as a man, but as a black man. [/quote] I guess I was wrong to think that you were trying to make the point that the media were forcing us to think of him as a black man rather than a man (who ha

Reply to Betrayal of Martin Luther King in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] you would not be so stupid as to try to pull your tricks here, after you have been beaten so many times with simple logic and facts [/quote] So your response to bee saying you have failed to back up your points with facts/evidence is to...tell him that you have (without providing any). Classic Doc! [quote] until you can actually admit you are wrong [/quote] Rich coming from you! I'm not sure I've ever seen you admit you're wrong/apologise, despite numerous occa

Reply to BIAS: Time Magazine in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] I wish people would stop trying to argue that Time and the other media outlets are somehow objective, middle of the road, publications [/quote] A publication is allowed the occasional biased/left leaning artle without causing it to lose it's objective middle of the road side, and you can also have a middle of the road perspective if you alternate between 'sides'. For example maybe in a couple of months a right wing themed story will be on the front page. So while I agr

Reply to The End of the Republic, As We Know It in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] Obama took his first days to make sure islamic terrorists in Gitmo will have the same rights as you and I, and treated nicely, so they can easily go back to committing acts of terrorism [/quote] How are they islamic terrorists? If there's proof they are, then would it really be so hard to give them a trail, the same as anyone else? Or is it just that someone thinks they might be, and so wants to keep them locked up just in case? If you have evidence against them,

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] Casualty numbers still fluctuate [/quote] Yes, and that would have been a much better argument to pursue, as opposed to the 'you don't support the killing of children so you're a Hamas supporter', or Doc's bizarre 'you're a despicable anti-semitist because .'. I've never claimed the figures are highly reliable, but they're all that are available since Israel decided to refuse access to journalists (given some of the white phosphorous claims, I can see why!)

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] you're a liberal. 'Nuff said [/quote] That sums up your entire (non)argument pretty much. [quote] The bible teaches no such thing. There is no punishment for the children for their parent's sins [/quote] Try telling that to rightwinger.

Reply to People Have Lost Their Minds in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] Do people realize this is a Chicago scumbag politician that is no different than any other? [/quote] How's he a scumbag? Also if he's no different to any other politician by being a scumbag (I'm assuming by other you meant politician rather than any person) then what difference does it make if he is, since all the alternatives will be as well?

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] You were the one that decided to equate the 2. Are you now repudiating your statement? [/quote] Since I never equated the two, no. I'm not holding my breath on you apologising for your mistake though. Ultimately, you either have no idea what the word equate means, and/or are an idiot, and/or can't read. Rightwinger effectively said the Israelis were restrained for not imitating the Nazi's and killing everyone. I responded that such an argument shows just how bad

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

Just can't bear to admit your mistakes, can you Doc? Let me repeat it again: "the comparison to Nazis is abhorent and beneath contempt. And could only be done by one so filled with hatred of Jews as to seek their erradication" Since it was rightwinger and not me who decided to bring up the Nazi's, I'm fascinated to hear how you're going to try and wriggle your way out of this one. Oh that's right, you'll probably do what you normally do when I show up your rather awkward

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] how many middle-eastern Jews do you know personally that you can make such blanket statements about Israel? [/quote] You seem to have missed my point. The people here seem to take everything the Israeli's say as automatically true, and everything the Palestinians say as automatically false. How many jews+palestinians I personally know has no relevance to that. [quote] the comparison to Nazis is abhorent and beneath contempt. And could only be done

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] do you always believe what the evil, murderous side tells you [/quote] It seems you do. That is everything the Israeli's say is taken as gospel and can't possibly be wrong. Anything the palestinians say is automatically false (and anyone who dares question anything the Israelis say or do is a crazy liberal who loves Hamas and hates Israel). Those who are actually able to think for themselves will realise that both sides have good cause to lie - you can see this with th

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] if you really want to go back "before they were born", they're all descended from the same peoples; their ancestors, really, were all there together. the jews have just as much historical right to the area as the Palestinians [/quote] So you're basically saying that yes, the children should be punished for what their parents have done? Either you do think children should be punished for their parent's sins, or you don't. [quote] This snide crap isn't really even worth

Reply to Google: Your new corporate overlords in Politics JoeUser Forums

I don't see so much of an issue myself. If a company wants to play politics with their money, let them. It's up to the consumers to decide whether they then want to spend their money at such a company, and if they don't, the company will lose money as a result, and either learn it's lesson, or end up losing out to a less political rival (e.g. I can remember a few articles in these forums a while ago about McDonalds supporting gay rights, and a boycott that resulted due to people wanting them

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] who says they don't care? [/quote] ~1/3 of dead thought to be children suggests that no, they don't care enough (if at all).

Reply to The government's "money" in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] you cannot invest what you do not have. SO you invest after you have them (and after they are taxed) [/quote] See before: 1) Profit = revenue - costs 2) A business gains revenue through the year 3) A business incurs costs through the year If a company doesn't make profits through the year, then it doesn't gain revenue/incur costs through the year. It doesn't matter if you don't know exactly what those are for them to exist. Here's a simple

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] Why should the Israelis be "proportionate" in their response? [/quote] To avoid becoming like those they seek to defeat? Or maybe so they don't visit the sins of the father on his child (last I checked that was still in the Torah)? Or maybe just because they think that an innocent childs life is worth something? [quote] Hamas kills at least 90% innocent civilians and yet you complain about the 33% from Israel? I agree the percentages speak for themselves [/quot

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] And how many innocent Israeli children has Hamas and other terrorist groups murdered over the last 61 years? [/quote] Your point being? If you want to extend the timeframe for deaths, make sure you do it for both rather than just one if you're just comparing death figures, unless you want to start comparing how many years of Israelis deaths you have to look at just to achieve a similar number as the amount of palestinian civilians killed within only a few weeks! [

Reply to The government's "money" in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] some costs are annual [/quote] Apportionment (accruals+prepayments) easily solves that. [quote] Company X hires 10 people based upon first half earnings and their guesstimate of sales for the second half. But what happened to sales during the PRIME profit/selling season for virtually all sellers this year? They tanked! Badly! so those 10 people would be laid off, and instead of a small profit the company would realize a loss.&nbsp

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] This is the new PC. You kill 10 so I'm allowed to kill 10...This is crap and the new modern way of war propelled by the media [/quote] Actually Israel seems to be arguing 'you kill 10 so I'm allowed to kill 1000'... [quote] War is war...sad to say, innocents do sometimes get caught in the crosshairs [/quote] A third of deaths being children is "sometimes"?! And thats before you even include the innocent men+women. I know, how about Israel j

Reply to Thoughts on Gaza in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] why is there never an outcry until Israel starts shooting back? [/quote] Maybe it has something to do with the death count? estimated ~400 women+children vs 3 israeli civilians (and that's assuming every male killed isn't a civilian, which is pretty unlikely!). Maybe if Isreal were a little better at not slaughtering a ton of kids they wouldn't receive such bad press - bombing a UN school wasn't exactly the best PR move the Israeli's have made, for example. I think Isr

Reply to The government's "money" in Politics JoeUser Forums

It sounds like you're contradicting yourself now. Anyway, lets summarise this into a few quick statements, and you can say if you disagree with any of them: 1) Profit = revenue - costs 2) A business gains revenue through the year 3) A business incurs costs through the year (The result of all 3 of these is that a business gains profits (/incurs losses) through the year). Now on to the other part: [quote] You keep talking about spendin

Reply to The government's "money" in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] you are wrong. All you have is a revenue stream - and it is unpredictable [/quote] I guess I should have started at the basics. Profit = revenue - costs. A firm receives revenue throughout the year, and incurs costs throughout the year => The firm is making profit throughout the year (if revenue>costs of course, otherwise it's making a loss). To ignore costs is absurd. Also revenue streams are predictable - an ice cream seller can expect sales to increase

Reply to Do You Support the Governments Spending Plans? in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] We are in the middle of a pretty bad recession, and the federal government lead by Obama want to increase government spending on incredible levels. How this is supposedly supposed to pull us out of a recession is still a mystery [/quote] Because the recession is resulting from reduced demand; people cut back on their spending, causing businesses to fail (especially since finance has dried up meaning they can't obtain a loan to keep them going until spending picks up agai

Reply to The government's "money" in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote] let's look at one example. Oil was $140/barrel in the 3rd quarter of 2008. SO I can then extrapolate out how much money I as Exxon would earn based upon that, and see my dough rolling in! SO I spend it. ANd if I had? Yea, big loss for the bozos! [/quote] Depends. If they were stupid enough to think that oil price (which up until then had been extremally volatile) would somehow stabilise, then yes they would be stupid to heavily rely on that p