Polynomial

Polynomial

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When have I said 3v3 is an invalid game type? And why do people think Erebus is unkillable?

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In 5v5 the games are about macro (Zikurat), where in 3v3s the game is determine by micro (Cataract, and even more so Prison). While our views on the game are clearly different, there's something I'm sure we can both agree on. The rampant "NERF X" posts of lately are more or less garbage. This game does not require major balance tweaking. Some things could use a boost, but no super nerfs are in order. This discussion has mostly been on different viewpoints of the game.

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[quote who="JuareZz" reply="37" id="2336537"] Quoting Polynomial, reply 36For the record, 5 UBs is an illegitimate team. Stacking Demigods on a 5 player match is ridiculous and should not be considered when speaking in the context of a competitive setting. 5v5s balance themselves due to the size of the game. When it comes to 3v3s its more about Demigod combination. There are more Demigods so you don't feel a Demigod's advantages over another as much in a 5v5. But answer this.

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For the record, 5 UBs is an illegitimate team. Stacking Demigods on a 5 player match is ridiculous and should not be considered when speaking in the context of a competitive setting. 5v5s balance themselves due to the size of the game. When it comes to 3v3s its more about Demigod combination. There are more Demigods so you don't feel a Demigod's advantages over another as much in a 5v5. But answer this. Hypothetically speaking Regulus cannot beat a Queen of Thorns. So you need to make

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[quote who="Krazikarl" reply="21" id="2336447"] People continue to think of this game incorrectly. This is a team game. Everyone who is complaining about "balance" thinks of this game as 1 demigod against another single demigod. That's not the way this game goes. Its not so much that they think of it as a 1v1 game, its that a 1v1 situation is really the only fully testable situation since anything else gets very complex and you cant really test well.[/quote] 1v1 is a skewed

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[quote who="Esuzu" reply="31" id="2336270"]He is a bit too strong if you play him correctly. More importantly he is hard to counter, especially for rook. Everybody has a nemesis (almost) but sometimes it is a bit too easy to kill rook. A nerf would probably be in it's place, or the others can get some kind of buff.[/quote] Sigh. Stop thinking of this game as a 1v1 game. Its not! Its a team game!

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My point is the game is fine right now. Some things could use a boost yes but I don't think everything needs a nerf like so many people are complaining about right now. People who are complaining about balance are PUGs and newer players. They play in games with no coordintion or organized teamwork so yeah things may seem to be overpowered when they constantly find themselves in 1v1 situations.

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[quote who="SoFFacet" reply="31" id="2336249"]2) 5v5 is "more balanced," but not because it requires any extra skill or teamwork from the players. It doesn't, the playing skills are the same, just applied to a larger arena. Obscenitor explained the reason quite well here: Let's say every single DG were a clone of the fire Torch bearer, except one of those clones happened to do 10% less damage than the others. In a 1v1 that DG would be at a major disadvan

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[quote who="CosMoe" reply="11" id="2335547"]Of course you do not have the same problems as the average player, like noone teleporting in to help you, leaving you to flee or die in a 1vs1 against a Minion Erebus. A good team owns every build if the opposing team is PuG![/quote] But you can't balance a game, especially Demigod, for people who are not on an organized team. If there is something that seriously tips the side of a game when both teams are organized and coordinated the

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[quote who="[ShakeNBake]" reply="8" id="2335518"]TO START. His base move speed definitly needs knocking down to 6.0 That way you can at least attempt to run away from his minions. (At the moment, as rook, even if you were to take a +15% move speed item, you would still be at 6.2 and unable to escape him or his minions without a teleport - which he will probably stun, and if you fake cast, you'll be dead before you can cast it again). Stacking armor seems to not

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[quote who="StAcK3D_ActR" reply="49" id="2334782"] You can't be serious. DOTA has less constant action because of map design. You can't argue this. Just because Demigod is "slower" doesn't mean it cannot have more action. LOL. also, on another note to prove your reasoning, how many games of dota have you actually played?[/quote] I guess speed and action are the same thing to you. I give up.

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There are so many ridiculous posts about balance everything is overlapping each other. Just because for some strange reason some people don't have the internet required for 5v5s does not make them irrelevant. 5v5s are the most balanced... again... because at this level you have so many different abilities you do not feel certain combination imbalances you feel in 3v3. In 5v5s it becomes about a team's strategy and teamwork more than individual builds and Demigod choice. You cannot bal

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The big overarching point is this: People who don't play with organized, coordinated teams are going to have a skewed view on "balance" because everything they encounter something that wipes the floor with them they don't think they can counter because they are working alone. This game was meant to be team on team. Not PUG on PUG. So when you have PUGs swarming the forums with something they think is imbalanced its going to be something completely different then a group of people who

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Oh please. I've faced ton. I've played with one. People just don't play with organized teams. So they complain when they get their ass kicked because they were playing a 1v1 game.

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That's a good point Socttish. I think however one of the biggest points is that people simply do not play this game the way it was meant to be played. Coordinated team on coordinated team. Sure we don't have the tools to do it. Whatever. But if you're playing a PUG game where communication is low you're going to get stomped and sure things will looked imbalanced. I'm positive this covers the majority of the people complaining about balance.

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[quote who="Obscenitor" reply="15" id="2335392"] Quoting Polynomial, reply 143v3s are simply not as well balanced as 5v5s. In 3v3s you will run into combinations that are outright more powerful than others. In 5v5s its all about the teamwork and overall strategy rather than being able to straight overpower your opponent. They're more difficult games, but they are far more fair than a 3v3. 5v5s are the epitome of teamwork in this game. The team with better teamwork and strategy

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There are no serious balance issues! God. People just go in the forums an bitch about the game they just lost because something seemed to be "OP".

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OMG OAK IS OP TOO. HE HAZ SPIRITS LETS NERF HIM. Good god people. I hope this is a sarcastic post.

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