[quote]I guess I still own you Pwn3d again Your experince is nothing compared to most[/quote] This kid is amazing. You won, ONE ESL tournament. Half of the participants didn't even show up, and we weren't even in the same bracket side. If you weren't so fucking retarded and actually read what I said, the last two ESL tournaments count for nothing; They're only the beginning. Like 5 competent teams can really represent the balance. Just stop
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...Yeah, we don't tolerate pugs, so it'd be 2v2. ;)
I'll explain why I bring experience into this argument: The reason why I'm going into all of these balance threads and bashing the crap out of people debating for nerfs, is because no one has any actual experience, in organized team play, against organized teams, to justify whether a nerf is needed. Pantheon/custom games do nothing but scatter players of very mixed skill levels, and the best always come out on top. There is no real reference however to put these "good"
Congratulations sir, #1 BY YOURSELF in beta against randoms means nothing! [quote]You lose next time know who you are talking too[/quote] Oh. I'm sorry god. I'll remember to not to speak before spoken to first. You know, because you're a big man and all after being #1 on a BETA, by simply playing the most against random people. You really are the shit, son. Make sure you put that ladder onto your resume, because we all know
Your clan and mine should play. Later on today. I'd like to say 3v3, but our third is rarely available.
[quote]75 mana difference[/quote] She also has a higher base mana than Erebus to begin with. So again. 1200 health vs 600 health/damage + debuff. Since you're so reluctant to actually base this on how it actually works in-game, and instead compare demigods' stats and call imbalances, i'll just assume you retarded. [quote]stats don't equal the ones I have proven so go play with yourself noob[/quote] You mean all your opinions
Okay, I'll stop being a dick and try to explain this. Because in all technicalities, I am a newbie as well. [quote]Yes, I am a newbie, but I post because I've played enough now to notice a pattern where, again, I can handle myself pretty well against the rest of the demigods, but I'm having great, geat troubles with the UB in particular.[/quote] Okay, but in the current form of pantheon, theres no real 'pattern,' if you will. It's a bunch of playe
[quote]No other skill does damage/heals/and debuffs at level 1[/quote] SIR. 600 health vs 300 damage/health + debuff. I THINK ITS EVEN. Cry more plz. [quote]you are such [b]an[/b]** idiot take your two weeks (member for two weeks) and shove them up your ass you have no good arguement.[/quote] Yeah I know. Let's argue logic with stupidity. Since I'm essentially just as right as you will ever be at this point, let's instead ju
[quote]Fuck off and die.[/quote] [e digicons]:waaaa:[/e] Look at that, someone was nice enough to explain how you can play to beat UB. Instead, you respond to my provocative and elitist remarks. Seems to me like you're more interested in whining than learning how to play better...
I see some flaws with this... [quote]Keep careful watch and kill someone, anyone, in an epic ambush. This needs to be done early, done viciously, and done without remorse. [/quote] Does this assume that the team is retarded and has no sense of team work..? Like, do you intend to use this playstyle in pantheon/pubs? Ganking early is a general strategy and more power to you to try to go for first blood, but, does telling a rook to kill them vi
[quote]And since UB easily dominates early game, he controls the late game as well, since you're not able to get enough exp or gold as he is and his levels are probably high.[/quote] Translation: Wahh i suck I got owned by a UB im a newbie I dont know how to play this game nerf plzzzz You don't nerf demigods to overcompensate for skill. Just to contradict your shittyness, I've never had a problem against UB's. You just suck.
Unclean beast plays a pretty gangsta counter against regulus. Like it was said though, the balanced isnt based around one vs one. If you cant fight an unclean, I'd suggest getting someone like a Sedna or Oak to compliment your ranged nuking capacity with an upfront tank/CC. [quote]Having same problem here. Becomes quite annoying when every game you play in Pantheon is with an Unclean Beast.[/quote] ...God you're fucking retarded. Theres four demig
[quote]If a DG has a skill that you can't imagine not being in any of your builds it's an indication that the skill is overpowered. You should need to actually have to consider getting a skill. There's no reason not to get bite.[/quote] First of all, there are only so many skills to choose from, and many of them are universal and pretty standard to have on the demigod. There would be a lot of nerfs with that ignorant logic. I'll explain further: T
[quote]I completely agree. I can't stand UB. Needs to be nerfed to hell and back. I hate that fucking demigod. He's uninteresting, and he's absolutely cheap. Everytime I fight on Pantheon as forces fo light the Dark side ALWAYS has a fucking UB. SO stupid. Spit needs it's range reduced and needs it's damaged to be more spread out.[/quote] [quote]Anyway, as I said in my other threads, I consider UB to be so broken that I leave the lobby whenever I see anyone playing him.
[quote]Us beta testers[/quote] a.k.a. we're automatically superior and know everything, so anything we say is right and you're wrong. [quote]If you think he is fine you all have no clue. [/quote] While I'm going pretty far to assume this, I don't think the beta testers can identify imbalances as well as a setup, organized team base can. [quote]You are basically a bunch of dumbasses[/quote] &nbs
[quote]Well you see Erebus is OP so they substitute for that and take away the AI thus making it even.[/quote] qft
[quote] Sedna doesn't do that all with the same skill for as little mana as bite. Heal is less mana efficient for the health gain than bite, which also does damage and debuffs.[/quote] Yeah I know. Every class just needs to be put up next to erebus and his bite and we must all ask ourselves, "Is this skill not exactly like bite?" At which point, we can safely call it OP. Kawazu, play this game. Seriously. God your logic is riddled with
[quote]Skilled players are obviously OP![/quote] qft;kft
Obviously, this idea has lower priority than the connectivity issues, and the already messed up pantheon match up/statistics. Don't need people bashing an idea simply because it's not as relevent. That said... 1) I think the Pantheon, or in the very least the soon to come Team Pantheon, should include more options when entering the Queue, other than what demigod they pick. - [b]Team size [2v2, 3v3, 5v5][/b]; This is essentia
[quote]well im starting my training in game developing soon and u need exprience to tell uwhat makes a good and bad game and what can be improved and what cant[/quote] When I said what does experience account for, I meant what does YOUR experience account for. You're saying you are 'experienced' and can 'adapt.' I'm saying you're not. Demigod has just been released. Very few organized teams have been put together, and I've heard no 'OFFICIAL' mentions of clans yet
[quote][b]exta**[/b] i have experience in being adaptable not in runing arround by myself although it is fun sometimes[/quote] Okay, what does that 'experience' account for in demigod? What you said doesn't even make sense.
[quote]i know what im talking about because im expirenced in games[/quote] I doubt your experience really counts for anything yet. Past pantheon and custom games with random people, the beta, and even the past two ESL tournaments, no one's experience really counts for anything. No major clans/teams have emerged yet to really abuse any imbalance that there might be. Demigod is a teamgame, not a one man pub hero fest. Three people playing there characters separately with
[quote]maybe he's recently been exposed to the swine flu.[/quote] [e digicons]:pig:[/e]
[quote]First i have been in the beta since it started last year and think i know i little more than you.[/quote] You know nothing sir. I'm sorry. Keep crying man, you won't get anything fixed without logic. Acting arrogant, just gets people to dislike you.
[quote]I started this "legitimate" discussion, I didn't post any evidence and yet the thread still reached 145 posts. It doesn't take a lot of brainpower to realise that a lot of people think Erebus is OP, otherwise this thread wouldn't have received so much attention.[/quote] This thread is so huge because people like me love to make fun of retarded children like you. Keep crying kid, losing wont get those mean erebus' nerfed. :( &n