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You just can't stop with that nazi shit, can you? [quote]The American Democrats are similar to the German Social Democrats, except that Obama is considerably more to the left than the SPD is.[/quote] That alone is enough to prove that you don't argue with facts or logic but simply out of ideology motivated spite. [quote]I would be surprised to see a German newspaper that reports more factually than Bild does, to be honest.[/quote] This either qualifies you as t

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[quote]When they think "Nazi", they see absolutely everyone except those who support fascist dictators who gas people.[/quote] YES! You are all nazis! <embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="480" height="385" src="htt

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else JoeUser Forums

What, no one comments on the cost of health care? I even supplied a perfectly representive example for personal health care cost and the worth of the money in relation to national product costs - yet no comment apart from pointless bitching?

Reply to German Newspaper Reports: After six months, Obama less popular than George Bush in Democrat JoeUser Forums

Our political right is very horny. We europeans are a bit more liberal regarding sexual topics, so naked ladies covering most of page 2 of a DIN A2 sized "newspaper" isn't that big of a deal. Tits are also no indication of left/right political stances. I also didn't state that - I indicated that Bild values tits over content. By the way, I write newspaper in quotes because Bild was once sued and legaly barred from calling itself a newspaper on behalf of overwhelmingly not following ba

Reply to German Newspaper Reports: After six months, Obama less popular than George Bush in Democrat JoeUser Forums

calm down. if I told you that a news blog site posted proof that Bush ordered the 9/11 attack then you'd never believe it if it came from, say, DailyKos as opposed to the Drudge Report or Fox news. I don't even understand why you waste your time posting so much bullshit just for me saying that Die Welt is a right leaning magazine. And regarding the journalistic quality of the Bild Zeitung: http://www.bild.de/ Warning, usually n

Reply to Obama = Hitler | Nationalized Health Care = Nazi Socialism in Politics JoeUser Forums

You are all nazis!!!

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@Melchiz @Johann001

Reply to Obama = Hitler | Nationalized Health Care = Nazi Socialism in Politics JoeUser Forums

nah, Hitler is public domain now. Left and right use the h-bomb against each other freely.

Reply to German Newspaper Reports: After six months, Obama less popular than George Bush in Democrat JoeUser Forums

"Die Welt" is a right-wing paper, btw. Pro Bush Wars and so on. They are known for twisting anything liberal into a bad light and vice vers. It's a sister magazine to the "Bild-Zeitung", which is a cheap tabloid devoid of objective journalism.

Obama = Hitler | Nationalized Health Care = Nazi Socialism in Politics JoeUser Forums

This comparison grows more popular the longer it's repeated. To quote a fictional german Nazi: "You really think we'd make a nigger our Führer!?" The Obama/Hitler comparison is major bollocks. And regarding town hall "protesters" comparing the health care reform to "something that could have origined in early 30's germany": We evil germans got nationalized health care since 1883 courtesy of Fürst Otto von Bismarck.

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[quote who="Tova7" reply="10" id="2331043"] hahahah

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

Hmm ... I have to look up how exactly family insurance works in germany. Kids usually get to benefit from the parents health insurance automatically as long as they are living at home and never had to pay for insurance themselves (so something like that). But I think every adult is treated individualy with the public insurance (which is mandatory unless you can afford private insurance, btw). However, I started a new thread here: <a hre

The personal cost of Health Care - An international comparison in Everything Else Demigod Forums

Germany : Population : 82,046,000 GDP (nominal): $3,667 billion GDP per capita : $44,660 ( source ) Average income: ~ €2500 (<a hre

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote who="Mumblefratz" reply="162" id="2344103"] No, we pay far more than that. Decent health insurance for a family if you can get into a good sized "group" is $1200 per month. The same coverage is $1600 per month if it's a small group and probably closer to $1800 for no group at all. This is good coverage but not the best. Per visit copays are $20, there's a $1000 yearly per person deductible usually with a $2000 cap per family. Perscriptions are $10 for gener

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote who="Mumblefratz" reply="156" id="2343995"]I see you're not all that familiar with Joe User. You could write the most intelligent 20 paragraph response with carefully cited references and it all will be ignored to grasp on one little point that can be attacked and usually their interpretation of that one point will be a total misrepresentation of your position.[/quote] This works outside of Joe User, too. It's common rhetoric especially in american lobbyism. This scene

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="146" id="2343906"] Playground bully bullshit that deserves neither a reply nor respect.[/quote] [quote who="Daiwa" reply="123" id="2343463"] Aroddo - Your avatar is spookily appropriate. Slight modification here & there, BO could use it. [/quote] ...

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rather than fighting: give me more funny protest signs.

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="120" id="2343221"] [quote]you have different values and beliefs. And compassion, humanism and justice are apparently not among them.[/quote] What garbage. Amen, indeed. Respect for human dignity and self-determination does not require a massive forced transfer of wealth from taxpayers and lowest-common-denominator healthcare.[/quote] What I said. You have different values and beliefs than I do. And compassion, humanism and justice are ap

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="114" id="2343045"]The liberal's lament: If we only had more of other people's money and more rules and regulations, we could fix these problems. [/quote] What's wrong with rules requiring (private) insurers to pay for treatments, like agreed? They are selling a product and they are oblieged to guarantee the product's quality. They do not deliver on their promise because they don't have to. Because nothing forces them to. No rules. Society

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[quote who="Shadowhal" reply="110" id="2342843"] hm, can someone actually explain just why medicaid and medicare is so broke? I'd suspect it has something to do with them only treating rather sick and poor, thus expensive ppl. in that case, no wonder it is costly and running a deficit. if it is just badly run, then I see part of the problem: no one wants power to a system that has proven its inefficiency. but then ... would you not want to work on that? would you not demand from the gove

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[quote who="Daiwa" reply="102" id="2342549"] [quote]Why don't you want the government in every nook & cranny of the healthcare industry? If your taxes get used to keep you healthy and alive then there's no problem, no?[/quote] Medicare's broke & going broker. Medicaid's broke & going broker. The VA's broke & going broker. There's 3 reasons. And I won't sell my health and well-being for false security. This is the nubbin of the curre

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@daiwa Why don't you want the government in every nook & cranny of the healthcare industry? If your taxes get used to keep you healthy and alive then there's no problem, no? And what is socialized medizine anyway? As far as I know it's just a swear word invented to encourage people to think it's a communist attack on america. [quote who="psychoak" reply="99" id="2342529"]... You're all a bunch of fascist fucks and you don't even know it. ... <p

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote][quote]I'm sorry, but you still don't make sense. Maybe deliberatly or because you never thought this through. And you also don't provide an answer regarding the topic.[/quote] That's OK. There's a difference between not proving an answer and not accepting it as one. It's your article and I am in no position to make you take or even understand my point. It's not my fault you are not making an effort to get it. If you don't understand the meaning of control then there is noth

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="82" id="2342128"]There's so much bullshit dancing around the subject with inane platitudes here, anything to avoid discussing the actual issues. (I won't bother to wait for the inevitable: so why bother to comment, right?)[/quote] This is the third time in this thread where you try to inflame others with short, senseless posts, while ignoring what others write. You are obviously trolling because you can't come up with logical arguments. Ple

Reply to Health care reform: The motives behind the opposing parties in Everything Else Demigod Forums

[quote who="Daiwa" reply="75" id="2342053"][quote] What universal health care has proven is that preventitive care is a MUCH cheaper way to keep the poor alive. That's why other countries are able to have a healthier populace while spending less money.[/quote] There are so many things wrong with the inherent (and erroneous) assumptions in both these statements. My fingers being sore from trying to explain elsewhere, I'll just suggest you pursue some further reading.[/quote]</p