[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="24" id="2180148"] It's true the First Amendment of the Constitution intended to prevent only the federal government in the area of religion. Jefferson's writings confirmed this scope and pointed out that this power rests with the states. So, yes, it was completely permissable for the States to have their own State-established denominations and most did make express provision for the public "Protestant teaching of piety, r
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[quote who="Frogboy" reply="24" id="2180063"] Well, I pay 35% on most of my income to the federal government plus another 4% to the state plus 6% sales tax plus property taxes so we're pretty much at 50% right there. I certainly do take as many deductions as I can. But you claimed there are loopholes that keep me from having to pay taxes. So I am asking you to name these loopholes. Being quite familiar with the tax system (I am effectively our company's actin
[quote] This is the fault and problem created by the Bush Administration. We were attacked only once on our soil under Mr. Bush and the bad guys have been hiding and running ever since. Because of this you have felt safe and secure, causing you to believe what you have written. <span style="font-size
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[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="22" id="2178821"] I love this! Now that's nuance par excellence! [/quote] [e digicons]|-)[/e]
[quote who="Frogboy" reply="19" id="2178993"] Can you tell me some of these loopholes? I have a big 8 accounting firm doing my taxes and I still ended up paying over a million in personal taxes last year. Thanks. [/quote] If you pay over a million dollars in personal taxes, even with a standard deduction rather than itemized, I don't think you have a thing to worry about. In that tax bracket you are taxed at about 35% of your income if no deductions are taken. So
[quote who="kingbee" reply="23" id="2179093"] now you're gonna get paladin believing there's an obama religion as well as an evolution religion, not to mention the dozen or so religions he's instituted on behalf of people with whom he doesn't agree. [/quote] Come to your own conclusions.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1579618
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="17" id="2178936"]Is this meant for smokers who pay over $3.50 a pack in tax? [/quote] lol, could be.
[quote]tax only spending (high sales tax), and make that differ based on the item being purchased.[/quote] You do realize that currently there is only a 2% tax on food items while there is a 7% tax on most everything else and well the gasoline tax I won't even post cause it's outrageous. It's being done in a way already. *cough*
[quote who="stevendedalus" reply="11" id="2178779"] Good for you--well said, Mommie. Though I wasn't casting aspersions on your age. You see, I didn't check out your profile. [/quote] Well, sorry if I misread what you said, but what you said came across that I couldn't understand your point of view, which I took as a stab at my age where I probably shouldn't have. Sorry, but I've came across the attitude many times that if you're not over "x" age then you ha
Wasn't really sure where to put this, but guess this will do. I figured I'd better take a minute and introduce myself right fast. As some of you may have noticed I seem to have conflicting views, but really I don't. I just don't live by the norm and don't try to limit my ideals to one playing field or the other. I'm registered Republican, but that doesn't mean that I agree with all the Republican ideals, they're just the party that fit me better. I'm a non-denominational Christian, but I ofte
In my opinion kids should be taught about how to safely act around firearms in school, in a highly regulated environment of course. Also, the current process that you have to go through to ensure that firearms are only in the hands of individuals that are qualified to use them the government has let organized crime take over. The bad guys walk around with guns and are safe because law abiding citizens have to go through hoops to have one. People would be a lot less eagar to pull a gun on some
The reason why we have the progressive taxes we do now and why the taxes are as high as they are on the rich is that they are much more likely to find every loophole in the book in order to get out of paying taxes, which there are quite a few. The only way a flat rate tax would work is if you didn't allow these loopholes in the first place. Tax all income over x amount equally all the way up with no way to duck out of it and it might work. However, then you'll run into the problem of people j
[quote] Nah, nothing about the Big Bang hypothesis or theory has been proven. Astronomers are still puzzled as ever regarding where and how matter and stars originated. But I wonder...what's the BBT to you? Is it the same one that George Gamow and 2 associates dreamed up in 1948....that an explosion of nothing produced hydrogen and helium which then shot outward and turned and began circling and pushing itself into our present highly organized stars and galatic system?<
[quote] Are you and Obama supporter? (HOPE) lol. Your hopes are dashed! From what I see of this current administration that is the direction they are headed. [/quote] Do I sound like an Obama supporter? If so, I think I really need to step up my game a little bit. Though he is the President, and we'll have to deal with him for the next four years, no I'm not a supporter. Why not? Because he doesn't make sense! You don't dump money on a failing economy where inflation i
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="20" id="2176624"]As far as the First Amendment religion clause, Catholics in the 1700s certiainly didn't enjoy "religious freedom". The leading Founders were dogmatic opponents of what they perceived of institutional religion they called Popery. The fledgling US Senate went so far as to unanimously declare in its treaty with the Muslims of Tripoli in 1797, and approved by Pres. John Adams, that the government of the US of America is not in any sense f
[quote]I doubt she 'd get the nuances.[/quote] Feel free to try me. You might be surprised. What? I'm too young to use the sense that I was born with? There's a saying that I absolutley love. "Sometimes wisdom comes with age and sometimes age comes by itself." Don't judge me by my age and I won't judge you by yours. [e digicons]:beer:[/e]
From what I saw you were adamant in the fact that Christianity should be taught about in school. Now, while I'm against teaching any religion in schools I do think that it would be beneficial for several religions to be reviewed in schools together. Not many today honestly go out in search of what they truely believe, unfortunately. Belief is part of who we are as a society and it's amazing in truth how most religious books show the same messages. I think if more people realized this then soc
[e digicons]o_O[/e] Okay, now I'm completely confused..... you realize that you're quoting me and talking to someone else? *blink, blink*
Love and like aren't usually considered the same thing. If you love someone then usually you will still love them if they do something to hurt you, it would take something really really big to make you not love someone anymore. If you like someone then it is much easier for them to do something to hurt you enough so that you don't like them anymore. For example, a parent's love is unconditional for most. Their child can get mad at them, not speak to them, etc, and they still will love
Lol, you know it's funny that I've been told that I can't be religious because I believe in the Big Bang "theory" which has been proven to the best of it's ability. The Bible coincides with this whole heartedly. I do however have a problem with evolution, and that problem is even the experts don't like it. I mean they have a theory that was formatted by Charles Darwin, but there is really no proof of any sort to support it. While there is evidence that species can evolve to adapt to their env
I agree whole heartedly. Still not called for unless they decide to revoke all our freedom's tomorrow, but then I'd hope there's no one in power at the moment that is that stupid.
[quote] So now we are more like France than ever as we too are following the way of "enlightenment," which is really a form of darkness and offers no light whatsoever, and instead we are finding ourselves deceptively heading back into bondage. I'm sure the Founding Fathers and the Pilgrims would be horrified to see what direction this country is now taking as we march out of our Christian heritage and into the darkness. We're more like France now because that'
Well, honestly several parts of this story were left out by all until this point then and no references made to outside sources. All that was said is that the President's airplane flew over New York City without the President on board. I hope you can understand where I'm coming from a little better with that in mind. As for panic being caused, people need to think about it a little more before they go running in terror. Do I understand what happened on 9/11, yup, sure do. Was I there,
[e digicons]:rofl:[/e] ROFLMAO. OMG! Sorry.... one sec.... ROFLAMO. Okay, I feel better now. For those that aren't aware..... Air Force One isn't a plane perse. Air Force One is the official designation of ANY plane that is carrying the President. Wow, didn't know that press releases were required everytime they moved a plane from airport to airport. Who knows, might have been a maintenance trip. I mean after all can't have the plane going down with precious cargo now can we. [e digico