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Finally I will say this to people who are either on the fence/skeptical about global warming or are just looking and waiting for proof of its existance. Sometimes it takes putting things into a different perspective for someone to realize something. Essentially it boils down to the fact that skeptics are looking for absolute PROOF that the world is really on the brink of a climate crisis. They are looking for complete 100% concrete evidence that the world is really facing global warmi

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[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="839" id="2505838"] clonmac - I do not think the issue of the current temperature is in debate. It is the trend that is in debate. Even your ice cores are open to debate as appparently one side has fudged them as well. Why else try to eliminate the MWP? The raw data shows a different story. [/quote] Contrary to what you might think, I was not disputing any scientific data at all. I was merely stating how eliminating a whole f

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[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="836" id="2505749"]Interesting revelation on Climate Gate this morning. The timeline is coming out, as well as the sources. But what is most intriguing is the implied threat from Gavin Schmidt, head of the NASA climate unit - of course there is no collusion between CRU, The MET and NASA! {wink, wink}: [/quote] Anyone who knows the history of global warming and NASA knows that NASA has had its fair share of cover ups with trying to hide g

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[quote who="Star Adder" reply="832" id="2505686"]I'm wondering if anyone has ever thought about how much earth's atmosphere would warm up if we'd plaster all of Sahara with solar panels. Can you say Reflexion...? [/quote] Seriously? The reason why no one has given it thought is because it isn't exactly realistic. The number of solar panels you'd need before the reflection (<--correct spelling) would even factor into global warming would be huge vast square miles of solar

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[quote]The ice core samples that compose our long term record are proving uncooperative as well, showing no such drastic warming trends for the recent years.[/quote] I am a firm believer that mankind is generally good at heart. I believe that while there are some bad people in the world, the majority of people want to do good. Why am I saying this? I say this because there are many many scientists from many groups that do ice core drillings. It is just one person from one grou

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I didn't watch the above video (I intend to). I am not sure if it is pro-AGW theory or against, but just seeing the picture of Senator Inhofe makes me cringe. How that guy makes it into office each year is beyond me. His campaign largest campaign contributors are Oil & Gas: In the 2008 election cycle, Senator Inhofe’s largest campaign donors represented the <a title="Oi

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[quote who="Frogboy" reply="699" id="2504188"] Renewable resources are a good thing. Why people are set in their ways to live forever on fossil fuels is beyond me. It isn't sustainable and with increasing evidence that it is harmful on the earth to burn, then we really need to look into ways to reduce their usage. Whether that be wind, water, nucleur, solar, whatever. We are way to dependant on oil and you can't deny that. You're talking to someone whose new house should

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[quote]However there is no such evidence regarding AGW, cause this supposed evidence is based on: unreliable, incomplete and adjusted (read manipulated) temperature readings imperfect computer models which certainly do not include every single aspect which has effect on climate change (cause today there is very little or no understanding how certain things work) and their appropriate "feedback", therefore these models are not good enough supposed high positive

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Frogboy, your statement goes both ways and your example does nothing to prove anything. It could now be said that the consensus is that bacteria causes ulcers. So what exactly is the point to your statements? Why is it that we "know" that ulcers are caused by bacteria? Because of science correct? The reason why we even have consensus with a lot of the things people believe is true is because of science. Science creates consensus. Does science get things wrong sometimes? Yes. But does

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Opponents of global warming's greatest weapon is doubt. If they can place a single ounce of doubt into the public's mind about whether or not global warming exists, then they will forever be able to argue against it irregardless of facts. It is just like what the tobacco companies did. They placed doubt about whether or not smoking was harmful in the public's mind. They had doctors come out and say that it was healthy. Regardless of how much the medical science community would sa