[quote]Yes you have the right to own a gun, yes you have the right to have healthcare, yes you have the right to own a home, no you do not have the right to expect others to pay for protection or any of the other questions before this one. The last one, well, that was is not that simple.[/quote] I fear we are lost in symantecs. If healthcare is a "right", then where is it? Do you therefore believe that anyone without health insurance is being denied their civil rights? My
[quote]Then take a fraction of that money and close the Mexican boarder.[/quote] Oops! there goes are third largest oil import source! Right behind Canada, #1 and Saudi Arabia#2. VENEZUELA is #4 and wouldn't Chavez just love some more leverage!
[quote]I just don't know why you guys keep wanting expensive things like Iraq war and not pay for it.[/quote] No one wants war in Iraq. Just disagreements of the bset way to end it. But to your point, there is a legimate debate about the best way to increase government revenues. I am not aware of any tax increases that have accomplished that. There has to be a strong discipline to reduce government spending first or any revenues simply get eaten up.
[quote]Trickle down doesn't work because greed causes the theory to collapse[/quote] I agree with your sentiment NT but feel you are combining different things. Triggle down was always based on the requirement for smaller government and fiscal responsibility which never happened under the Bush admin. Art Lauffer who created Triggle Down theory under Regan would cringe at the republicans under Bush growing the government "like they were democrats" Greed is with us always,
[quote]Kenwas and Night Train, you make good points that I actually agree with to some measure, but I've also addressed the issues of a gridlocked Congress, Actual President Cheney, and Bush as an affable patsy in previous dissertations on this thread. I just wanted you to know I appreciated your positions and the cogent manner in which you presented them[/quote] Ditto and right back at ya! Have a fine day! We'll all figure out how to keep the boat afloat eventually.
[quote]How about we choose something that reflects the CURRENT Bushco world, instead of something from 2004 which reflects data from 2001/2...ahem. Like this... http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/12/news/economy/corporate_taxe[/quote] I read your article. Did you? It begins "Nearly two-thirds of U.S. companies and 68% of foreign corporations do not pay federal income taxes, according to a congressional report released Tuesday " It explains that most of thes
[quote]So yeah, I'm pissed. My big question has to be why aren't you?! And why would you waste a breath on defending this ignoramus pawn of a President?[/quote] First of all, I am not a Bush fan. What I argue against is the constant blaming of everything that ever happened on Bush as if Congress did not exist and the extreme Michael Moore type claims. I think it will be an interesting question down the road in history as to whether the war in Iraq was good or bad for thi
[quote]There's paying taxes and then there is being stupid about paying taxes. He's obviously taking a straight draw of profits with no efforts to shelter his income. Then he complains about paying too much when he isn't even taking advantage of routine provisions designed to protect small businessmen like himself from over-taxation! I applaud the fact that he's paying greater than zero (unlike the top corporations in the nation), but he can't bitch and moan about a 1-2% shift in
[quote]Can Obama, given the greatest of temptations, at the helm of the most powerful nation in the history of mankind, with a monumental mandate from the people...will he return that power to the people, via upholding the checks and balances intended by the Constitution of the United States?! I hope that he has the moral certitude and intellectualism to do just that. [/quote] My goodness you are an angry person! Some of your claims are quite extraordinary
[quote]You're paying for the free tax cut giveaways you got from Bushco for the past 8 years. You didn't earn them. You didn't deserve them.[/quote] Excuse me, but wasn't it you that laughed at Brad for paying a 35% tax rate and told him that he needed to get a high powered tax advisor that he probbaly couldn't find in Michigan. You were quite proud about paying lesss than him and now you put some one down for taking a free cut giveaway? Strange how your imput seems contra
[quote]If the OP can say he has contacted the techs, worked with them and the ISP to see if there are routing issues that can be resolved, checked there aren't any local issues such as his own on board security and is still unable to achieve reasonable access, then the OP can say it's not for him and as you say, state disappointment. It doesn't seem reasonable or useful to post a personal problem using generalisations, while at the same time offering no stated attempt to take steps to ident
[quote]In fact it is NOT safe to say. Stereotypic thinking is not safe, nor is it fair.[/quote] I am so pleased that we always find a commonn ground Doc! Have a great day!
[quote]I would point out, however, that due to the kind of money these people have made, it's pretty safe to say that the vast overwhelming majority of these Wall Street scumbags vote Republican year after year, because it is in their own selfish interest to do so, of course.[/quote] Not so safe to say about the cuurent world. The largest recipent of funds from Wall Street for the first quarter was Obama. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/17/AR200704
[quote]But we wanna believe we do know and we don't usually get it right.[/quote] 100% agreement! Certainly respect for a person is something that must be earned, while I do respect the rights of all as members of society. But therein lies the rub. There is a constant push and pull about what is a "right" and who shall determine same. Do I have a right to own a gun? Do I have a right to have health care? Do I have a right to own a home? Do I have a right to expect
[quote]We need to start thinking as a NATION again, not as a collection of partisan self-interested grafters and lobbyist flacks.[/quote] I do not get from the drift of your responses that you are not partisan. On the contrary, it seems that you think all the graftersand lobbyist are Republicans or Bush devotees. I do not recall any strong condemnation of a Democrat or perhaps I missed it.
[quote]Those people are in fact outside the pale of society,[/quote] Hmmm, they all seem to live in the society around me. Many are not in a cage, many are lesser shades of gray of the above and will undoubtedly vote on election day. Where do you live? I just happen to agree with T. Jefferson that " A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine. "
[quote]Thanks Ken for the support...[/quote] The best support for the site is to congratulate when they do well and keep them on their toes when they do not. As Thomas Jefferson said, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
[quote]Can't we all live in a civil society with respect for eachother?[/quote] Always sounds good Doc, but hardly realiastic. Do you respect everyone in society? The rapist, the child molester, the thief, the drug dealer, the faudulent CEO? From there, it is all just shades of gray, take your pick!
[quote]So be part of the community and put your money on what is needed to help these people no matter how things are now. Think of the future. Do not live for today - it is tomorrow that comes every morning and it can be for the better with a little help! [/quote] It is a simple fact that the site does not work properly and we recieve prescious little information as to the status of the server moves etc and when to expect a positive result. It is not unreasonable to ask fo
[quote]http://www.grabup.com/uploads/ac184c85b4a8eedb69e2137816aa0d8f.png Chart of taxes paid by income group.[/quote] What I find curious is how anyone can believe that increasing the top 5% tax braclet to the 38.9% range and giving the other 95% a tax cut will possibily add up to anything but massive deficent spending not even counting the trillion dollar increase (832 Bil) that Obama is proposing,especially in light of the estismated (now) 2.8
[quote]Don't discount our findings. Those that have pointed them out are not dummies by any means.[/quote] It is unfortunate that there is no response from the powers that be other than the short one from ID. Unfortunately there was never a peep about the server transition being finished or not finished after the announcement that it would begin last Monday. As noted, this has been going on for a LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNGGGGGG time.
[quote]I understand your frustration but I don't think it's the site that's the problem.[/quote] That would be fine except for the fact that it happens with all browsers, not just IE. I have the same issues using FF.
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