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Reply to National Debt question in Politics JoeUser Forums

drmiler: http://www.toptips.com/debtclock.html is the site for the national debt. BTW: Do you know what you would get if you took the 7.2 billion and put that into social security? A system you never had to pay another dollar into and it would NEVER run out. So as you contemplate your meager payment from the government for the 40 or more years of service you had to our society, think of why Mr. Bush wants to raise the social secur

Reply to National Debt question in Politics JoeUser Forums

drmiler: The national debt is currently 7.2 trillion, not 5.9 (there is a national debt clock website). The problem with the debt is that it SUCKS money out of the economy. It hurts business by causing higher interest rates, which leads to more business failures, especially among small businesses. It hurts the people because it keeps credit costs higher and makes it harder for people to get out of debt. Some believe, btw,

Reply to CBS Hoax Memo in animated GIF format in Current Events JoeUser Forums

Draginol: So you are saying it doesn't make a difference, is that correct?

Reply to Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Soltair: Yes, lumping all Chechens together is wrong and was not my intention. But for God's sake, this was the finance minister of the biggest rebel group in the country we gave asylum to. Putin is smart enough to know whom we are talking to and when. This isn't some alley meeting in Paris near the Eiffel Tower, this is CIA operatives in fatigues in Chechen forests. The point is, can we afford this duplicity with rebel groups wh

Reply to CBS Hoax Memo in animated GIF format in Current Events JoeUser Forums

Awed in Space: Please don't misinterpret my intentions. I understand this is an issue on many levels. One is the method and CBS obviously deserves to be flogged for how this information got to them. Originally there was some question on JU about the information in the memos being important enough that this is or is not a story in the first place. Another JU blogger, for example said that if the information was correct he could not vote for

Reply to Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Anthony R.: I said I was a historian, not a professor (although I did teach). My Ivory Tower is made of investment and stock market expertise tested on a day to day basis. The Russians first started helping the Iranians with "nuclear technology" in the 70's and have been at it on and off since then. The Iranians were the counter-balance in the Middle East. Soviet foreign policy used to be all about the principle of having approxi

Reply to Michael Moore is EVIL in Humor JoeUser Forums

I hope you all realize this will become a new song by They Might Be Giants! Hehehe.

Reply to CBS Hoax Memo in animated GIF format in Current Events JoeUser Forums

Draginol: Does it make any difference that Killian's secretary went on 60 Minutes tonight (taped earlier today) and confirmed the information in the memos as accurate? She said she believes that 1) Bush was given preferential treatment to get into the National Guard 2) missed drills and acted as if he were above the rules 3) Killian did keep notes as a "cover my butt" tactic and 4) Bush did DISOBEY a direct, written order to take a physical a

Reply to Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message? in Politics JoeUser Forums

ShoZan: Yeah, but consider the ones who died in World War II fighting for the totaliarian Stalin! Some of the Russian battles were fought with little more than rocks and sticks. I really do think (and from talking to some Russian immigrants) that the idea of democracy is so foreign to them that many will be saying about Putin "about time he took control".

Reply to Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Anthony R.: Well, I am a historian. The thing is not so much that Putin was part of the KGB. It's that he believes the old Soviet Union is his destiny the same way the czars did. Russians, interestingly, never revolted in the 60 years of oppressive communism. They just assumed that was the way government was intended. As far as "proportional" response goes, I disagree. Either tell the Chechens we won't stand for terrorist acts

Reply to Kerry's plan helps Americans in Democrat JoeUser Forums

Calor: You mean Health Secretary Crawford's statement that Al Qaeda would use reimported drugs from Canada to terrorize Americans isn't true? I mean, whom can I trust?? J/K!

Reply to Ownership Myth in Politics JoeUser Forums

Messy Bu: Well, that's the problem with a national program. What works in Ohio might be inappropriate in California. The thing is, it should be a state, not national issue because there's no way for a national program to determine the needs locally. Politics and poverty are a bad mix on all levels of government to a degree with the national being the worst.

Reply to Ownership Myth in Politics JoeUser Forums

stevendedalus: I don't think it's DNA. It's perspective. I've helped many families with debt and the key to doing so is always what they think they need. From what I've seen, families in debt prize the most: 1) Cable TV 2) Alchohol and Drugs 3) Expensive items (cars, boats, vacations) I had one family with $12,000 in debt and

Reply to Finally , George W Bush tells the truth! in Politics JoeUser Forums

liveletlive: You might want to look for articles and books by Mark C. Miller who claims Bush is so sadistic that any sense of empathy or sympathy is foreign to Bush's nature. So he can't bring himself to say he is sorry. Now, I know he talked at the convention about his "so-called faults" but remember he is referring to the way others see him, not how he sees himself. Miller claims this is why he can't say Abu Gharib. After all, this is em

Reply to Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message? in Politics JoeUser Forums

stevendedalus: It's ionteresting that you should say that. The U.S. keeps "saying" we don't approve of the wall the Israelis are building. We don't approve of Israeli gunships blowing up Palestinian leaders. We don't approve of terrorist actions against Israel. But actions tied to our disapproval? None. But in Russia, we say we support Putin and then work with the rebels. Are we working with the Palestinians to keep Israel wea

Reply to Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Deference: 'Tis the plight of the interested and informed that we will be saddled with knowledge and wisdom whilst the populace.... Say, did you see that last pass in the Buffalo game? Didn't think so. Hehehe. I don't think the people know it, but a Russia under Putin is MORE of a problem than Hussein ever was. He IS armed. He IS aggravated. He IS dangerous.

Are We Sending Russia the Wrong Message? in Politics JoeUser Forums

Vladmir Putin, Czar of Russia announce today sweeping measures designed to centralize his authority politically and is stating that "terrorism" is now the number 1 problem in Russia. He said "Over the 15 years of its new life, civil society in Russia hasn't really awakened," Izvestia said. "And the president has decided that in conditions demanding fast, effective, a

Reply to Ownership Myth in Politics JoeUser Forums

Draginol: You ask and I haven't seen a reply about where to set minimum wage. The concept of minimum wage was that employers were paying the employees a "non-liveable" wage and thus causing hardship to the workers. If you use that as a standard for what minimum wage should be then it should be set at a point that covers food, clothing, rent, plus an adjustment for living expenses in a community by community basis. What we do now i

Reply to I'm Still Undecided... in Politics JoeUser Forums

ShoZan: My wife is voting for our cat Zombie. He is running on the Litter-al Platform (He never has said anything he didn't really mean!).

Reply to I'm Still Undecided... in Politics JoeUser Forums

Jilluser: I really don't the platforms are shaky, but they are vastly different. You'd think from the Kerry platform that Bush personally runs house to house to steal baby formula out of the bottles. The Bush platform states that America is better now than it was in 2000 when the economy was at it's height and the unemployment rate (now 5.5%) was 3.4% That to me isn't shaky but rather how out of touch both parties are. That's

Reply to I'm Still Undecided... in Politics JoeUser Forums

chiprj: So much of the rhetoric seems to be tuned on the concept that folks "must" vote a certain way because "their candidate" is the only one you could vote for. How ridiculous that the individual and not the platform is the focus.

I'm Still Undecided... in Politics JoeUser Forums

Probably the most heavily scrutinized individuals in the history of politics are George Bush and John Kerry. Not a day goes by that someone doesn't e-mail me a political cartoon on one or both. They are, if you looked at them the way their critics do, personifications of evil and good, Christian and unholy, ready to lead us into battle or ready to run for the hills,

Reply to Latest on the battle of the Bush memos in Politics JoeUser Forums

drmiler: So, if you follow your logic that the media should receive the same protections as the courts give defendents in criminal cases then FOX can say that North Korea exploded a nuclear weapon, right? I mean, you can't prove they didn't, can you? I think we have a different situation in terms of the media where we need to consider whether the documents are real as well as the significance of what they tell us. No one wants a wit

Reply to Latest on the battle of the Bush memos in Politics JoeUser Forums

Draginol: I have been looking at all the reports and have watched the networks on this issue and here is the sense I am making of it: 1) The evidence is inconclusive. It is not conclusive that YOU can duplicate the document with Microsoft Word. This only says the technology to forge is available, but is not a smoking gun. 2) Journalists on the right (like Kate O'Beirne and Robert Novack on Capital Gang

Reply to CBS Hoaxed? in Politics JoeUser Forums

To All: CBS has responded. Drudge has links. They are saying there are other "White House Releases" with the same font face. Well, it would have been a nice election with you Daiwa. But you certainly wouldn't go against your own word, would you?