[quote]Regardless I'm still struggling to see how there are people starving in this world, yet rather than have money given to them you'd rather see them given to a company to produce vehicles that will kill people and damage the world we live in.[/quote]WOW! Self-righteousness par excellence.
[quote]I am at street level. I see common man. He is a vulgar slug who with a bad attitude and blames every one else for his problems[/quote][quote]Again, I ask why should I be financially responsible for these types of people? I am being asked to pay healthcare for people who smoke, over eat, abuse drugs, fornicate, and practice other high risk behaviors. When I say “fornicate” I am not making a value judgment. Sex leads to STD’s . I am going to have to pay for all of these
[quote]And this absurd statement is based on what? [/quote] Precisely this: [quote]they are demanding that first Dick Cheney resign, the President Bush do the same so Nambla Nancy Pelosi can become President and work "more closely" with the Messiah Barack Obama.[/quote] You're as bad as the lefty loons since they have nothing to with the reality of the Democratic leaders.
[quote]Disagreeing with all of Bushes many mistakes is one thing, but HATRED is a huge waste of time and energy.[/quote]All in good fun--I respected the father and just laughed and sometimes cried at the son.
You might be right--somewhat harsh--but I'm talking about those businesses that have them on the books. I'm not advocating going after the lemonade stand.
[quote]I hope it works... because this country is in dire need of this market to pick up very badly. I just wished for the life of me that these "bonuses" would have gone back into the system instead of the head guys of the company... its sorta like rewarding them for FAIL and helping put this country in the situation its in now.[/quote]I second that!
I intend to move from Wachovia-Wells Fargo to SunTrust run by Buffet.
[quote]the so called rich do not use any of the perks of goverment and still be forced to pay higher taxes, [/quote] No perks? In a position to lobby locally and federally, have highly valued property and need public as well as private security. A great nation that made it possible for them to accumulate wealth--where's the gratitude?
[quote]all of you for more taxes take a ride down in your town... find someone that has a crappier car than you and give them yours... because you have "more" than they do... how you like that?[/quote]Another example of gross extremes. [quote]Would you work harder and pay a higher tax rate if you could be Sir Bradley of Michigan?[/quote] Fine satire.
[quote]didnt you notcie a raise in the food cost recently due to the higher fuel charges?[/quote]Yes, and also the cost of producing ethanol had something to with food prices, but are they now coming down as rapidly with oil at $50? Nevertheless, you have used an extreme case; otherwise, it is difficult to pinpoint the cost of living index.
[quote]Alzheimer's patient out of touch with reality.[/quote]Ouch. COLA has many other factors--state & school taxes, floating bonds, community operating costs, so you think because of a direct publicized levy on a business it's all attributed to mean old federal tax. [quote]Or Richard pining for FDR's return.[/quote]Yea, right on!
Which means there still has to be incremental boosts within each tier. Single page tax form. Taxable income should be determined only by dependents and out of pocket medical care above $1,000 and other proven casualties. No other tax preferences except real estate tax on residence but no interest and therefore no AMT. There could, however, be consideration for some rent relief. Earned and unearned income treated as equals. Single or two page
It may come as a surprise that I am against the earned income tax credit as I believe from newspaper boy of working paper age to part-time dollar store worker should pay at least a token tax when they meet a threshold of $50 per week and thus subject to withholding, plus social security and Medicare. Many would argue that the IRS cost factor of dealing in petty cash would be prohibitive—to an extent true— but the indoctrination of everyone’s having to share in
[quote]all it did was line the pockets of the people that got into the mess in the first place.[/quote] I'll grant you that it appears that way and I have always suspected white collar thievery, but this time they are under scrutiny and will have to come through. Even Freddie and Fanny are making steady progress.
[quote]We're not talking about what small businesses make.[/quote]Precisely what I said earlier. [quote]Most of the people (look it up) who have taxable income > $250k are people who have a small business attached either as an LLC or more commonly as an S-corporation.[/quote] These have widespread write offs.
So now, you are being pressed into slavery and demand reparation? You admitted you and your family will not be affected by it, yet you will retaliate spitefully by not hiring or worse laying off. Won't that in the long run be bad for your business and further reduce your wealth?
BTW Moderate Man, What's not to hate?[e digicons]:cylon:[/e]
[quote]Better to focus on the industries you're best at than make all of those worse off by taxing them just so you can prop up an industry you're poor at.[/quote]Totally limited view; yeah, they've made mistakes; but they now produce extraordinary vehicles and deserve a break unless, you're content with GM and Ford making huge profits in Europe, Russia and China and screw the American worker.[e digicons]}:)[/e]
[quote]A job is a job right? I am a good enough worker where I dont need some "union" to protect me.[/quote]A John Wayne, eh? Well, there are many others who do need protection--all for one and one for all. [quote]BTW how would I be a scab if there is no union there anyways? And if your trying to get me all rattled believe me its gonna take more than this [/quote]Not my aim, but in commentary elsewhere you told me to shut the hell up so semper fi to you, too. As
[quote]Frankly I am going to be quite amused when all of the Obama worshippers start realizing that he's just another scumbag politician and not the "something different" savior they thought they were getting.[/quote]Spoken like a veritable loon. [quote]Can we be sure they will ever realize? Its possible that they could just decide to ignore any problems that crop up.[/quote] In bed with Mason?<img class="mceIcon" src="https://forums.joeuser.com/js/tinymce/plugins/sdsmilesv2/images/bu
[quote]As soon as you start imposing regulations saying 'well I know you want to invest in this company but they're too risky, so you can't spend your money on what you want to' you move into very dangerous territory.[/quote] I think you and TA are on differnt pages. It's true stock and corporate bond investors are at risk and not subject to regulation, but the SEC ideally should question rambunctious managers that jeopardize a viable company[AIG, Enron] and ce
[quote]I saw a wamu commercail on tv last night and almost busted a nut laughing so hard[/quote]Yeah, me too--both nuts!
[quote]wow I never though of that right off usually I do. I tell the old lady that when she says something about the gas companies or whatever.... I told her that they are going to make the money either way. stuff just gets handed down to the person buying said stuff and overall it just hurts the middle to low income people.[/quote]You're as laughable as Nitro .[e digicons]:*[/e]
[quote]It's no problem for the companies large or small to pay their 35% tax. Apparently you never heard of passing it on to the consumer. There's your middle class tax break fruit cake. No big conspiracy, it's pretty simple, higher costs = more expensive product. Get a brain.[/quote] It's not that simplistic, peabrain: corporations still have to consider their market competitors before bluntly passing on the tax cost to the consumer; furthermore, it becomes a vicious circle by pass
[quote]But the tax increases proposed aren't targeting the truly big guys. They target the small business owners.[/quote]Wrong conclusion. The misunderstanding of returning to the Clinton marginal rate of 39½% is that the percentage is for the entire income. What really happens is a bump of around 3½% per dollar above 250k. If a "small" business gleans a net profit of 300k he's paying that much more on just 50k.
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