I'm all for PPEM and Hot seat, hell at this point I don't care if I have to whip out the punch cards I just want to play!

Sammual

Hotseat, yee!

I think this should be an option.   And I think there should be duel-screen options (like 1 screen = 1 player, other = other player)  and have some actualy fun cinematic views for the 2nd player to watch durring battles and stuff

Also, there should be hotseat online play.

thats my 2 cents

I'm really old in Internet years (just turned 44), but doesn't hotseat = only have one, non-networked PC to play on? I mean how is the seat hot unless someone else's butt was there right up until yours was?

I still have no idea if I'll want to do much with multiplayer anything, but hotseat vs. online seems like asyncrhonous vs. synchronous to me, and I'm really hoping that if the game has to pick favorites across a division like that, then the asynchronous multiplayer people will be the winners.

As far as my memory serves, hotseat means two or more players using the same computer in a not online game. They could battle themselves or fight against each other (or suffer the usual friend that finds amusing to betray you in the worst possible moment...), but all the game would happen in one computer.

I suppose that Starcok's priorities are SP and MP, but it would be nice if they could devote some time for hotseat as long as pigeonpigeon conditions weren't meet.

That isn't how synchronous turns works. Or at least, not when it's done well. If you've played civ IV or HoMM V multiplayer then you probably have played with synchronous turns. All it means is that the actions of all the players are resolved simultaneously, at the end of each turn. I don't know exactly how it all works behind the scenes, but I've never encountered a resolution that made me yell at the computer in frustration.

No. Like I said, I don't know exactly how things are resolved behind the scenes. But if two people both try to attack each other, and they are in range, then they will fight. If one tries to attack the other, and the other moves, it's more complicated but still works well. For example if one runs and the other chases, I think the final position of each is determined and if the runner ist still ahead of the chaser, then no battle. However if the chaser is capable of overtaking the runner, then you have a battle! (vague Tweedle-dee and Tweedle-dum reference, anybody?)

No, that's my point. They don't switch places. If two armies with the same speed (and are within range of each other) are moving towards one another, then they will fight. Like I said I don't know how it's resolved behind-the-scenes, all I know is that it works.

I don't know what games you've played that have it, but like that, Civ4 worketh not.  Maybe you're confusing lag with some complex system for resolving turns?

Movements are made in real time, he who clicks the fastest gets to decide how things work out.  It's bloody irritating in the FFH mod.  Radial damage spell spamming...

The only way you'd get something other than that is by two people moving at nearly the same time and having commands undo themselves because your move was late, but before it was triggered.  I tried it out in Civ 4 an entire game before I got tired of trying to beat the AI to the punch line.

I guess it's been too long since I've played Civ IV in multiplayer, then... For some reason I don't remember ever having to try to move before the other players. Maybe it was so traumatic that I blocked it from my mind?  

There is normal turn processing. I'm positive of that for singleplayer. Obviously my memory is fuzzy on the issue of multiplayer, but if it exists for single-player I'd imagine it must be an option for multiplayer. 

Amen

back in the late 90s I feel like there were many hotseat games.   HoMM, bugsey (that might be the wrong name), worms....   More games should have this option.    Its one thing when its like an FPS or something that would make it crazy to try to hotseat.  But turn based games like Settlers of catan (I'm lookin' at you Sea3D) and other such games should certainly have it.

Stardock has stated that Elemental will be released for Windows, and Windows only. I'd love for them to release it for OS X, but it's not going to happen.

That said... where are you getting any information about intel processors getting phased out? I haven't heard anything about that, and I can't find anything about a phase out in a quick google search.

That's the complete opposite of my experience with Apple. They have been by far the most friendly computer company I've ever dealt with.

But uh, you don't need a mac to run Unix... At all...

Edit: I humbly apologize for helping to derail yet another thread...