So I didn't play in the beta but I did play since launch. And I've played all demigods in quite a few different situations, including Erebrus. I found him very strong before the patch and never saw any reason not to get bite no matter what build I go with. Now however it is not a required skill and not an instant "I win button" for experienced players.

Yes there were plenty of whiners who had no good reasons for game balance changes. But when such a large number of the community can come together and commonly agree that one aspect is overpowered AND most of them were able to provide plenty of evidence, it might just be because said aspect isn't quite balanced correctly.

If you had kept up with more of the forums or at least more of what Frogboy talks about, you'd see that SD regularly plays Demigod and they were agreeing completely that Bite was just a bit too powerful.

Best course of action would be for this thread to be locked as it is obvious that you will not see reason and only respond to others by calling them idiots and hypocrits while you yourself is being just as hypocritical.

Now if you can provide actually good reasons as to why Bite was not overpowered then please by all means, enlighten us.

there was no problem with ere to begin with  i would say there is a bigger problem with  bat swarm its range

OH EM GEE!!!  Don't listen to sly he is a nub!!! (j/k sly I u)

Anyways, to the OP:

Don't bother trying to express your views to the majority on these forums.  Any display of opposition is like an electric bug-killer.  It will attract all of the insects and they will flame the living hell out of you.

I agree that IF the devs are basing their nerfs/fixes off of mediocre, inexperienced players (which it seems is the case), it will ruin the overall gameplay.  However, if this isn't the case, then all we can do is pray and hope that GPG and Stardock are objective when looking at fixes/nerfs.

It's in Demigod's hands now (yay another DG pun).

Use Occam's Razor.

erebus is still pretty freaking good...even as an assassin build only. If bite didn't slow, he wouldnt be as scary. The slow is what tends to get me nailed.

I think of myself as a decent tanks (priests + bite + easy evasion when things get tough) so I'm usually the guy people sink their skills into since I'm on the frontlines.

I also think of myself as a "close-range sniper"/"snagger".  When the enemy has low hp but is getting away swarm+bite is great for the finishing blow.  Or, if they have lots of hp, swarm+bite (slow) + sleep (stun) is great for snagging demigods so that the team can unleash on them now that they've caught up.

I don't think you're giving vampy nearly enough credit.

I'm a team player who likes to give others a piece of the gold. 

WE NEEDZ TO SHARE THE NOMS!!!!!

some twat posts crap about the Erebus nerf and the Know It Alls go fuckin off the wall with "facts" and "points"

really, when will this stop?

(English is not my first language so I apologise for any misspelling and idiomatic errors)

To OP: As i read your argument you state that some of the changes(i.e. the ones you like) in v1.1 are good and bleeding obvious, but the changes you do not like are the result of GPG/SD pandering to uninformed whiners. I find this approach might not be entirely fair to the involved people. Might it not be the case that a lot of people complaining means that something might be worthy of attention? And after a thorough review from GPG/SD, here i mean gametesting - not only  listening to "whiners" - action was taken. 

in 1939 England and France declared war on Germany not because the Polish people were a bunch of "whiners" but because the German attack was factually wrong. This is just an example of the OP's logic applied on another setting, I will just clarify in the strongest possible terms that I am not making ANY comparisons between OP and WWII. ( just to be sure, some people really have a short fuse and/or misunderstand)

I am just saying that I find your position is based on faulty logic (You were not part off the decision process) and a bias toward one particular DG.

PS I have seen plenty of good Vamps even after v1.1

PPS I really like this game despite early frustrations.

PPPS Lets keep the forums polite (and funny - but never rude)   

I miss your whining in irc but i guess you still can't control yourself!!!  I been playing your whining erebus post nerf and he does quite well!!!

Yeah, anybody who has Reg, Rook, and TB as better than Sedna is just being nutty.  I mean, I play Reg the most and I know that Sedna is a MUCH better DG in most cases.  I wont get into the rest of the silliness on that list since that was just the most obvious bit.