Administrator-Trait: do you use it much and let Heros stay in cities?

Limboldt

Join Date 05/2004

Administrator-Trait: do you use it much and let Heros stay in cities?

I like the Idea that there are people in my empire careing about effictivity and improve my production.

But I seldom use them because there is one big conflict for me: I want to level up them before I use them, but you can not do both, staying in a city and leveling... I never build the Adventurer-Guild, perhaps that combination works. I am an Outdoor-boy...letting heros stay in a city is not so much fun...

Or something else...

In the game "Endless Space" Administrators gain XP for what Administrators do: building improvements and so on, perhaps a variation of this could help. Perhaps they could gain XP when you reached special milestones, like doubling the income or sth like this.

Or you offer them "Missions", played "indoor, virtually outside", like killing a Crimelord in the city, helping an old lady with her stupid Umberdroth who climbed on a tree and does not find the way back down, or killing some spiders in cellars... just to give them a chance to make some XPs while sittng around in the city...

It is nice that they are "Commanders" now, making them more valuable in fights, but still the advantage of Administrators is nice to have in the game, but as mentioned above I find it hard to play to gain a hero only for the purpose to station her/him.

I would like a "subsystem": Together with chosing "Administrator" you get a special Henchman-type, a Manager with either bonus "- xy Unrest" or "+ xy food/money, like the new traits where you get Research or Money once.

So the hero can still do what heroes do, and his earnings for the Empire in Administration result in recruiting that Administrator-Henchman.

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@StevenAus I hear what you are saying

I played a couple games recently. Even in FE(I’m not in LH beta) mid to late game I don't have much use for new heroes anymore. Tireless march change mostly, but the trained units also seem better.

I think a global unrest reduction bonus would be better than the city specific ones. It eliminates the issue of having to move them around every now and them to cities with high unrest. If you get enough of them maybe it would allow you to absorb the huge unrest hit of raising taxes. Personally, though I despise the unrest mechanic and would like to see it go away. I’d much rather have enough cool things to do with my heores that they are never unwanted and extras- rather turn heroes into the unrest mitigation strategy requirement. In my opinion governors should do cool things for cities and encourage city specialization.

What (besides governors) could be done to make unwanted heroes useful:

(1) Improve Steal Spirit

I never use this spell. If it were changed to allow the stealing of any one trait I would. It should improve levelable traits your sovereign already has- like the magic skills. I always thought you should get more from stealing high level spirits. Maybe you get an extra trait for every 5 levels or something.

(2) great works

Similar to civ 5 great leaders these consume the hero who retires from campaigning to create a powerful building on the map. Done right this could completely replace the governor track, and eliminates the issue of xp. And remembering to move your governors around to quell the unrests at the various cities/grow new cities through their pop-growth abilities (not fun).

Some options:

* magic node. Type chosen from the schools of magic the hero knows. (if over lvl 10 creates a super node e.g. +2)

* Scrying pool (doesn’t stack with itself, but does stack with Procipinee’s pools)

* Training Camp --> gives units produced at attached city a bonus trait of your choice (could be a slightly different set of traits than the standard unit traits). City’s militias also gain trait. (stackable)

* Arms dealer--> All researched weapons and armor of any faction that you aren’t at war with are available for purchase in the city’s influence. City’s militias gain armor and use the best weapons.

* Alchemist tower --> produces gold and research. Scales with unit’s level lvl * (+2gp/+1r ) kinda boring, but useful for specializing gold or research cities.

* Horse trainer --> Only works if you have a source of horse income. War horses available for purchase in cit's influence. Mounted units produced at city use war horse instead of regular horses. City's militia ride war horses.

This certainly helps with the research and unit producing city specializations, more super cities. It also adds a little bit of a secondary defense city specialization (previously only kindof an option through outposts). Most cities serve little unique purpose though- only contributing to research- conclaves, or city growth/unit hit points- towns.

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