ByeBye, Saddam

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I agree Jafo. Well said.

SoDamn Insane is no more

I just hope that it ends with his death.

Buh-bye!

So long Sucker!!!

well., who's next in the list?   

Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was executed in Baghdad early Saturday morning by hanging.
Several witnesses were present when the Iraqi dictator, who ruled between 1979 and 2003, took his last breath shortly before 6 a.m. (0300 GMT) Saturday.
Saddam’s half brother and Intelligence Head Barzan al-Tikriti, and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, a senior judge belonging to the Iraqi Baath Party, were also executed alongside Saddam.

May I add: Since the invasion of Iraq there have been at least 57,000 deaths of Iraqi civilians. Saddam would be proud. Don't Gloat!

Saddam may not have been the nicest, most compassionate of world leaders...in fact he was bloody ruthless, but when I read of U.S. soldiers commenting that many, many Iraqi's are much worse off since the invasion, I have to wonder if they were truly liberated or further plunged into deeper chaos, given almost 60,000 Iraqi civilians have died in needless violence since Saddam was deposed....not to mention the tens of thousands of Iraqi military and police personel.

Okay, so many are glad to see the back of Saddam Hussein, but when the cost is close to 100,000 Iraqi lives and still counting (not to mention the coalition deaths), I'm not too sure it was the right way to go about removing him in the end. I guess it comes down to my having a much greater respect for peoples lives than I do for what is perceived as democracy (or not)....that the end equates to tens of thousands of needlessly lost lives on all sides, and that (for me) does not justify the means/method of removal.

I too saw Saddam as a ruthless tyrant and thought he should have been removed, but the cost of having done it this way has been too high a price for the Iraqi people to pay. Something more covert and done quietly with internal co-operation may have been more appropriate and less costly in terms of collateral damage/lives lost.

What you have to remember is countries like Iraq are not civilised. This is how people like Saddam come to power. He is just the tip of the iceberg and unless you sort out the rest nothing is going to change.

The idea that getting rid of Saddam by force would solve Iraq's problems was naive and costly.

I too agree that the loss of life is hard to justify in any way. However, I also understand that in some cases the cost of peace and freedom is very high. One can reference the movie Braveheart to see this in action. I also agree that there may have been another way, but, I don't know what way that would have been. Even the thought that there may have been another way isn't relative at this point. This way has been chosen and that's what will be in history. Maybe as a result of choosing this way, there may come about some better/different ways to deal other situations like this. I don't know how the benefits of this can ever be accurately measured. Although it is pretty easy to measure the negative. Which is why I think that some people will always focus on the negative.

He needed to answer for his crimes, but his hanging was nothing more than a hollow victory. The guy was found hiding in a hole in the ground...not surrounded by thousands of armed loyal followers...some dictator. We should have left Iraq as soon as he was caught.

I don't know how the benefits of this can ever be accurately measured.

Benifits? Given there are 20+ Iraqis dying every day, I don't know there any benifits to measure, and it'd be certain if you were able to ask the people of Iraq themselves, they'd tell you there were none. There are no winners in war...just casualties.

I don't know anymore who's the bad guy in this story.....

What I know is that one person brings more and more death to US soldiers, willing allies and innocent civilians of Irak, and this very same person was elected twice!
Oh, did I mention the cost of this war? About $700 billion, thank you taxpayers.   

"For the sake of humanity"?

I agree with starkers: There are no winners in war...just casualties.

Starkers: I couldn't have said it any better.

I don't know how we Americans, can look the other way as to just how many innocent Iraqis, women, children and old folks have been slaughtered since Dubya decided it was his mission to decide the fate of Iraq. People worry about the fate of our men and women over there, as they should but I don't hear people I talk to saying much about the Iraqis.

I remember just before the invasion watching Hans Blix, the U.N. man over there saying that after all these inspections that there were no WMD's. Next thing I see Dubya with his fake Texas accent saying what a threat Iraq is because they posses WMD's. I'm thinking, wait a minute. Someone is lying and I don't think it's Hans Blix. Blix reputation is clean. He is a man of great repute.

So there you have it. Tragedy on a grand scale and I fear hanging Saddam is just going to make it worse.

And good riddance to the Sadman Insane. Can't say I will miss him. Unfortunately another will probably crop up in his place.

I don't share the enthusiasm in celebrating the death of another human being, even someone who probably did deserve it. It seems to cheapen the value of life somewhat, don't you think?

Hasta la vista, baby.........

Ending Sadddam's life might not end the violence but then again, it might cause a lose of focus for the insurrgency.

I am so very glad that he was found guilty and hanged by the Iraqi courts. It really is an Iraqi problem that the US (and the rest of the coalition) is assisting with. Most of the deaths since the initial invasion have been Iraqis killing Iraqis over who controls the country.

There are those who support the new government and those that want a new tyranical dictatorship. It is better for the people of Iraq and the global community to not let that happen.

The fact is that for umteen presidents the US has been the global police force. It's not a position that I always support but it is the will of the people as a whole and that's that. If we are going to do the job then we have to do the job right. Staying in Iraq as long as it's needed while power is transferred is what we have to do.

I have lived in Texas most of my life. We kill a good number of criminals here. I don't actually think it deters new crime from others. But you can be damn sure THAT guy won't be hurting anyone else. Same thing here.   

{as an aside, God (or whoever) is a better judge than any of us and I am confident that anything that was mis-managed here can be straightened out there }

Benifits? Given there are 20+ Iraqis dying every day, I don't know there any benifits to measure, and it'd be certain if you were able to ask the people of Iraq themselves, they'd tell you there were none. There are no winners in war...just casualties.

Starkers, I'm not trying to create too much of an argument here, BUT, what you quoted and your response was VERY selective. My VERY next sentence was:

Although it is pretty easy to measure the negative.

You chose to comment on one sentence leaving the very next one out. Not only that, but your comment implied that my attitude was just the opposite. Why don't you take the very next sentence in reply #13 up there and let me know what you think. Thanks

Zubaz: It is because of Bush's invasion that many many innocent lives have been lost and that invasion was based on LIES. Lies told to the people by their so-called president. Don't say that this fiasco is the will of the people when they were mis-lead about the reasons for it. This situation is outrageous! Bush needs to be held accountable for it.

I wouldn't be bringing up the death penalty in Texas. Check this article out

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I hope this isn't the kind of Democracy we are bringing to Iraq.

God will fix this? I am getting disturbed now. This is 2007, right?

Texas

where "He deserved killing" can be a viable defense.

It is because of Bush's invasion that many many innocent lives have been lost

We have no way of telling how many more Iraqis would have died if Saddam was still in power. And remember, it wasn't Bush's invasion, it was a coalition. And I don't agree with your arguement about lies. The WMD lies were first spread by Saddam and the governmetns of the UK and the US believed them to be credible.

I wouldn't be bringing up the death penalty in Texas.

The local cases that have ended in the death penalty seemed warrented. If I trust the local cases . . I'll trust the remote ones too.
And while I think that Amnesty Internation serves a good purpose, I trust thier statistics as little as almost any other and less than some. There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

God will fix this? I am getting disturbed now. This is 2007, right?

I don't understand what you mean by this. God doesn't exist because it's 2007 and we should know that God is no real? You can believe what you want and I'll do the same but if that's your arguement, you might want to try a little harder.

I believe (on faith and no more . . .not the strongest argument either ) that there is something beyond us that has a larger purpose. And if we whack someone wrongly, that person will be taken care of appropriatly by that higher power.