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The meaning of it all

dedicated to Evil Stormbringer and Wheeloffire

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Evil did me right by starting his own thread on the "what's a thief" question. But a few posts later in that Grammar nazi sprawl thread, QuietlyObserving says "If we are to be a society founded on the Rule of Law, it would be prudent to maintain a healthy respect for language and the meaning of words, lest we slip into a dictatorship of unelected Judges."

This gives me a painfully beautiful opportunity to start a sister thread to Evil's, and ask you all to sink your fangs, fingers, etc., into the basic question "How does a law rule without a human to interpret and/or execute it?"

That's my latest hasty attempt at a longstanding interest in the gov't-of-law-and-not-men notion that's very popular here in the US. I've also known a few linguists and flirted with other philosphies enough to be taken aback by anyone who has too much certainty about the meaning of a particular word or phrase.

Unless you're a minor with parents who don't want you seeing PG-13 movies (I know we have some sharp youth out there, just want to respect your folks), I suggest finding and playing fword.wav before you finish a reply here.
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Reply #326 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
however you look at it it costs more money to maintain public health system for the whole country than it does for private companies

also you don't pay for something your not using

and the usa does have public health it just doesn't cover the whole population just those who can't pay for it

and all of that money would still come out of your pocket becouse it is taxes that pay for public health
Reply #327 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
and all of that money would still come out of your pocket becouse it is taxes that pay for public health


No, you have to look at it in overall percentages. So basically how much money overall is moving from consumers wallets to health. when you look at private health premiums and how many people have private health cover, you should begin to realise that it is an obsene amount of money and only a small part of it is finding it's way into hospitals, including private hospitals!

This is simply unsustainable IE health crisis worldwide
Ashes of the Singularity II
Reply #328 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Most of our money goes towards defense and social security. Education gets about 5% of the national budget, and on a worse note infastructure gets less than 1%.
Reply #329 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
the main difference is the private induster pretty much has to come through on its promise or all of that money goes to another company that will

as for the government they don't have to do it and they don't


even in the usa with the promises to the vets the government barely keeps its promise to them

consumers are the ones who control the prices mostly in an open market

in a closed market it is the companies that control prices with government regs to back them up
Reply #330 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
and about the homeless in america

90% of the people living on the streets are there becouse they want to be not becouse they have to be

and i know this on personal experience

i lived for a year on the streets in san francisco
Reply #331 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
what post are you replying to danilost?
Reply #332 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Again where are you getting your data.

I dont think anyone wants to be poor, i think they are either made that way, or forced to be that way. Some of course just live off the governments bounty, but thats a select few.

As for the government not doing anything for its people. It does plenty. Sure maybe not as much as it should, but with the war and all, sacrifices have to be made.

As for private companies, they arent any better, all they want to do is get more money, only a few of them actually have a concience.
Reply #333 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
As for private companies, they arent any better, all they want to do is get more money, only a few of them actually have a concience.


Perhaps some private companies have a concience... as far as public companies are concearned and somthing which you regularly hear them say "we have to do what is best for our shareholders". Yea cm'om burn those poor starving refugees for fuel... "oh my but it's in the best interests of our shareholders". My question is, where do we draw the line against doing what is best for the shareholders??????? Enough is enough, i mean you know, were trying to have a civilisation here!
Reply #334 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Again where are you getting your data.

i lived for a year on the streets in san francisco



to the post where all of the money going to private hosiptals should go to help the homeless

the great evil man during the clinton presidence was bill gates

bill gates was donating 300 million a year to charity
Reply #335 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
danielost can i ask, are you busy doing somthing else while typing your posts? You've got a girl there havn't you? c'mon, admit it?
Reply #336 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
it isn't the governments job to keep anyone happy just healthy


When I am forced into paying them my hard earned dollars for 'taxes' then I believe it most certainly is their job. Otherwise, let me keep my money and I will provide for myself, be it in times of emergency or just general living.
And just to throw one into the mix here, did anyone happen to see the TV program last night called 2057? If so, what did you think? Far fetched dreams if you ask me, and the best part was the difference we will have between 'premium' health care and 'regular' health care... still seems to be all about the benjamins!
Reply #337 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
No i didnt see it.

Enlighten us.

And as for your source, danie. I say thats not good enough. For you to actually bost an overwhelming 90% statistic, would mean that you actually know it to be true. Tell me did you go around asking the homeless this exact question, using a mathematical formula that would make sure you were not biased in your approach and always picked a random sample. I think not. See, we all are always drawn to those that are most integuing, to those that are different. Meaning that you probably saw that which you wanted to see, a bunch of homeless people who were happy with what they had and didnt want anything better. Its a simple mistake which we all make.
Reply #338 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
And as for your source, danie. I say thats not good enough. For you to actually bost an overwhelming 90% statistic, would mean that you actually know it to be true


90% is presumably an exaduration, but i think the spirit of his point is that allot of homeless people choose that lifestyle. Since Danilost say's he spent a year on the streets, perhaps he can enlighten us all as to why this is the case?

If i was to live on the streets it would be a result of getting sick of working my ass off to earn shit money and then spend most of it on rent!

Also welfare is constantly getting harder and harder to qualify for. I don't know about America but here in Australia, you have to jump through some serious hoops to get welfare now.

Anyone who is too smart to be called mentally dissabled but not smart enough to jump through the welfare hoops... tuff! they get squat here in Australia.
Reply #339 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Here in America the government treats most of its people like children. I cant tell you how many court cases i have seen where people have faked to have an injury or pregnancy just because they couldnt get a job. Some of them actually injured themselves. No wonder our country is in debt
Reply #340 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Here in America the government treats most of its people like children. I cant tell you how many court cases i have seen where people have faked to have an injury or pregnancy just because they couldnt get a job. Some of them actually injured themselves. No wonder our country is in debt


Yep, yep that kind of stuff happens here too... well we do have a saying down here, 'where America goes, Australia follows'. Thats not just talking about military campaigns either. everything!

Hmmm i think were kind of a defacto American state! you guys better add another star for us.
Reply #341 from GalCiv2 Forums Top



Hmmm i think were kind of a defacto American state! you guys better add another star for us.

this is one of the reasons and the other one i know of is that the white man owes me a living no i am not prejudice


quote]If i was to live on the streets it would be a result of getting sick of working my ass off to earn shit money and then spend most of it on rent



we can add you right along with mexico and canada

one of the people i meet lived on the street for medical reasons
the man was a writer on the show "life styles of the rich and famous"
he had a family that he took care of ie home food
but he was a vetiman vet and if he didn't sleep in a dorm style sitting he said "that he would go crazy and might hurt his family"
i don't know wether to call him homeless or not
Reply #342 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
the reason i was there was becouse i choose to be there to start with in the end i almost became trapped

living off of others like that is a trap or what ever word you want to insert in there instead
Reply #343 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
we can add you right along with mexico and canada


hehehe, ok. Although i think the Canadians have got their act together better than us poor saps in America, Australia and Mexico.
Reply #344 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
all i know is it seems that mexico wants to be a state with out having to pay taxes
Reply #345 from GalCiv2 Forums Top


There was this funny part on Colbert Report a while ago. He was talking about how Mexico was recounting the votes right. And hes like "let me paraphrase it for you, All you need to know is that the president of Mexico is still... President Bush!!"
Reply #346 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
from what i have heard mexicos largest income source is the illegals and non illegals that send their money home to the families
Reply #347 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Duh, they are a country that only has a few prospering tuorist attarctions, i mean the standard of living there is average actually, but the government is just not up to scratch yet.
Reply #348 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Duh, they are a country that only has a few prospering tuorist attarctions, i mean the standard of living there is average actually, but the government is just not up to scratch yet.


Makes me wonder how a country that could fight serious boarder wars with America could fall so far behind over the years?
Reply #349 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
they lost those wars

but the real tradagy is that mexico is the failed united states
Reply #350 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
They were never really powerful, and America didnt really play 'by the rules' of combat in that age and time.

They havent failed, they are a work in progress.