but the dark ages was brought about by the cathilic church also the church controlled the people by limiting education and that was the real reason galileo and others where doomed

The dark ages were brought about by the colapse of the Roman empire.


I think the Catholic church of the past reminds me allot of the former Taliban regime in Afganistan, limiting education, being totally intollerant of other faiths and ways of living, and be willing to take extreme measures to get things done.

My point being that any faith can end up with an established power that is totally off balance from the true heart of the faith.

I guess thats why the world is becomming more and more sinical towards any kind of 'religious' governments.

right the dark ages came after the fall of the roman empire

but the cathilic church controlled all education after the fall

and the dark ages is called the dark ages becouse of lack of education

and we have one more religious government to go before the return of christ

and the body for that government is already here it is called the united nations

and we have one more religious government to go before the return of christ and the body for that government is already here it is called the united nations

No, actually the one world government will be established by a 'hero'. It makes perfect sense to me, that if you want to take over the world, you first have to besiege the world with strife and then come along and save it.

the united nations has an upc seal for humans it starts with 666

by the way the united states is entering its own dark ages becouse the public schools are controlled by the union and guess who controls the union

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You cant be serious. The UN is a joke, plain and simple. Even the nations that founded it dont follow its rules. All of that 'council' is made of is corrupt politicians that have no want to better the world, they are just there to complain. Its so called security council sets laws for all of its members to follow, but when one is broken all they get is a finger waging and a stern lecture. Plus, its contorled completly by those who have 'reserved' seats, and the lower house does not have any power.

If that is supposed to be our future government, than i feel sorry for the future.

the united nations has an upc seal for humans it starts with 666 by the way the united states is entering its own dark ages becouse the public schools are controlled by the union and guess who controls the union

Unions?? ahem, anyway, it is apparrant that society is running into some majour problems, education being one of the bigger ones.

If i was to imagine it was my job to take over the world, i would look for weaknesses to manipulate. I would look for ways to create conflict and division.

So if you look at what is happening in the world today, it is quite apparant that there is pressure worldwide to create a rift between Islam and the west. So far good people on both sides are still holding things together on that front.
Islam is the one majour pillar of stubborn virtue in the world that would stand against the anticrist, so i believe Islam is under heavy attack, and i think the biggest threat comes from i'ts own achillies heel of intollerance. Intollerance that can be manipulated to stir up more and more hatred in the world until one day everything erupts and then the sneaky 'hero' can do his thing and fool us all.

You cant be serious. The UN is a joke, plain and simple

True, and the reason it is a joke is a very important one.... All the easier to get it replaced! The united nations is another thing that would get in the way of the Antichrist, so that is why it is being kept down, weak and powerless.

See, you just have too think along the lines of what needs to be done in order to take over the world, and you can see it all happening right now, today!

NB, gee i hope 'Pinky and the brain' don't read this and get ideas!! hehehe

well in either case i think the usa should pull out of the united nations

oh by the way when the mark of the beast is first offered

the beast will make it sound like a good idea

ie with this mark no one will ever be able to get lost in the woods without the authorities being able to find them

no one will be able to rob you becouse you will no longer carry cash with you

no one will be able to kidnap anyone becouse the police will be able to track said person

i think you get the idea


oh and by the way why replace something when you can just take control of it and stop making it a laughing stock

a lot easier to take over than to start over

and you are right

and the one to watch out for is the one who brings about peace in the middle east

sad but that is the antichrist

oh and by the way why replace something when you can just take control of it and stop making it a laughing stock a lot easier to take over than to start over

Possible true, but human nature being what it is, people are more likely to be more excited to follow somthing new. The 'hero' i mention will bring somthing new and exciting to the table.

As for the mark of the beast, i am beginning to wonder if it will end up being your own genes? I mean i cannot think of any better way of truely keeping track of an entire population than with their own genetic codes? And perhaps taking the mark of the beast is to allow your genes to be coded into a computer?

Just a thought?

the mark of the beast is already in use

we use it for cats and dogs

the only difference is that the human version will have a gps unit on it

The mark of the beast already exists. We live in the age of information, and the database of information is the Internet. Fine, maybe it cant track our every move, but if you look at how much you can tell about a persons daily life from just these forums, you begin to wonder what kind of power someone holds when they have access to personal files.

And if the US draws out of the UN, they will not have any trading rights, and seeing as we rely on 70% of all our goods from other countries, that would be death to us. Now as for it being replaced, or even taken over, that is not likely. More like someone will destroy it and move on to the next phase of their diabolical scheme. All one person needs to do is gain economic power. Money is the middleman, it is the language of the world, and it is what unites us all. I mean if you really think about it, if someone where to create a company large enough to say employ 5% of the entire populace of the world. Than they would hold more power than any other country. Why? Because, if someone doesnt listen to them, they would just fire a section of those employed in that country, and cause such an economic depression and instability, for that country to not be a bother any longer.

Another way, would be to limit our freedom, and that is alreayd becoming a reality. Scientists have developed a beam that would be able to penetrate our store memories. Its in its early stages, but when tested this beam was able to make the person remember the smell of something that the beam specified. If this is taken further you could have complete control of an individual. That and keeping track of us. I think it will happen by hidden retnal scans. You walk past a unthreatening poster but behind it is a camera, that will quickly analyze your retnas and know who you are and where you are.

And the middle east is the best example we have of the late dark ages. A religion divided by radical views. But, its already coming to an end. There are those within the populace who are already preaching tolarance. They just need the chance to be heard, and their message spread. I dont think peace is that far away. Ideas sometimes have a bigger impact, than the largest war.

and the one to watch out for is the one who brings about peace in the middle east

But what does that mean? to 'bring' peace i mean? it's the bringing part that bothers me, how does he 'bring' peace? With war? Hmmm who brings war to the middle east right now? Saddam, yes he invited America in, but now he's finished. Then you have Islamic extremists, Palestine and Israel in conflict.

Seems as though America is currently in the best position for 'bringing' peace to the middle east. Mebe a couple more serious terrorist attacks, perhaps taking out the president or somthing like that could 'inspire' America to bring down some serious 'peace' to the middle east?

first the mark of the beast you have to except not something that can be forced on you

and peace in the middle east will be when the arabs stop killing isrealis

america in the final war will be the one defending isreal

great britan may help

america makes up part of the lost ten tribes

but before peace can be brought to isreal the dome of the rock has to be destroyed
so that the temple of soloman/david can be rebuilt

TheGreatEmperor

I cannot see anything wrong with any of your points. Your speculation runs in a different direction to mine, but i would definately agree that economics will be a majour tool for the anticrist to take over. If the world is in kaos then economic kaos will probably be in the lead! everyone will be quite desperate to get back what they lost. Almost desperate enough to sell their souls quite knowingly?? i don't know?

I think that we should have just left Sadam in power. He actually kept the people under control. Sure he used very inhuman methods of doing so, but i think we are starting to see why.

The fact that you bring in the assasination of a president is quite ironic. During the Gulf War, we pushed back Iraq from Kuwait all because President Bush Senior orchestrated the strike very very well. Now, after he was not re-elected, he started touring the world speaking about such and such, and one of the places he planed to visit was Kuwait. In Kuwait waited for him an assasination plot, which was ofcourse found out about by the polic and foiled, so he still visited. Now some people think that Bush declared war on Iraq as an attempted assasination of his father AND an ex-president.

thanks.

Someone with that power would not need a council to run things, he would just say that if you dont get something done for me, ill just use someone else while watching you country fall apart. Plain and simple, and with the way capatalism is heading today, its a definite reality.

but before peace can be brought to isreal the dome of the rock has to be destroyed so that the temple of soloman/david can be rebuilt

This supports my earlier remark that Islam stands in the way of the Antichrist.

GreatEmperor it just occured to me, looking at your profile picture... the evil emperor in starwars, look at how he came to power.

This is what i am saying! hehehe truth and fiction finally in agreement, that George lucas is one smart puppy.

hate to burst your bubble mystik but islam will be at the head of the antichrist's army

and emperor your right ecinomics will play part of it too

after the antichrist gets a big enough foot hold he will then start telling the world without my mark you will not be able to buy food pay your rent or pay your taxes

hate to burst your bubble mystik but islam will be at the head of the antichrist's army

I don't think so but it is possible i guess. One thing to consider, God is the one who lifts the poor and downtrodden people of the world. Since the majority of Muslims in the world are poor, i do not think the devil would be interested in lifting them to glory. I think he would be more enclined to lift up the rich and powerful.

satan is interested in forceing people to believe the way he does

and islam is a religion of forceing people into doing what the leaders say

and so is the cathilic church and most governments in the world

the rich and powerful are already lifted up

and that is another devide in this world rich vs poor

satan is interested in forceing people to believe the way he does

No, Satan is interested in spiting God. He dousn't care what we believe ourselves, he only cares about how our beliefs are seen in Gods eyes.

The only reason the world is rich or poor, is because of capatalism. The fact that we have people telling us what to do is a fact of human nature. We crave order, and we are willing to give up a litte bit of our 'soul' or freedom, if it keeps us safe.

Ill be back with a few famous quotes, and a really famous psychological example in the morning.

Good night, or good day, or good evening to each one of you

ok then there is the black and white division

the american and non american

the christian non christian

the jewish and the non jewish

the old and the young

the maryed and single

you get the picture

Here is somthing to consider....
I wonder if it is possible that the Anticrist could actually start out being genuinly riteous? Then at some point along the way, is corrupted by evil?