Super villains for Spiderman movies.

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The second Spiderman movie starts this summer.  I am looking forward to seeing it.

In Spiderman 1, the villain was the Green Goblin.  In the second movie, Doctor Octopus gets to take on Spiderman.

I am assuming that there will be a third (possibly more) Spiderman movie.  I was wondering to myself which bad guy would be chosen for the third movie.  After the Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus, there isn't another bad guy who stands head-and-shoulders above the rest.  (The Hobgoblin might as well be the Green Goblin by the way.)

Here are my guesses for which villain will be next:

Most Likely:

The Lizard (already a Dr. Connor character)

Sandman (what is his origin anyway?)

Mysterio (possibly)

Semi-Likely:

The Vulture (my personal favorite)

The Beetle (another favorite)

Venom (too new.  Too farfetched. There is also that issue of explaining the "Secret Wars" costume too)

Electro (he'd be good.  They'd have to make his costume cooler though.)

Less Likely:

The Shocker

The Tarantula (I'd like to see that though)

Rhino (too stupid)

Kingpin (used in the Daredevil movie)

Did I leave anyone out?  I quit reading Spiderman in the late 1980s, so there's a big hole in my knowledge.

 

 

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Venom and Carnage are hands down the best Spider-Man villians there are, I don't care how new they are. The whole symbiotic alien suit overtaking an "innocent" bystander and giving him super powers to justify it's own means?! C'mon, it's huge social commentary.
Also, can you IMAGINE the special effects? Awesome. (I am not a huge fan of special effects, but they can be used very, very well. As long as the picture doesn't revolve around them *ahem Matrix ahem*)
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Dude, I don't think venom and carnage are that great. My favorite villian has got to be either Sandman, Scorpion, or Mysterio. I'm thinking they need to go through The Sinister Six? Maybe that's asking too much but it would be so awesome to see that one. Or when Spider-Man meets his counter parts. Yeah, I know, I don't really know spider-man comics, but I liked the tv show A LOT!

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yeah, I was thinking that the "Sinister Six" might make it, but that sure burns a lot of bad guys in one movie.

Good call on the Scorpion Captain Cornbread.  There's one that I forgot.

Of course the Scorpion has the same problem that Rhino has.  Kind of silly.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'd like to see the sandman next. That would fill out my favorite Spiderman villans: 1) Doctor Octopus, 2) Sandman, 3) Green Goblin. Sandman is scary. As a kid, whenever I got near sand I'd be afraid he was going to pop-up and pull me in. *shiver*
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
I was reading on a website that there was talk of hiring Jake Gyllenhaal to play Venom in the third installment of Spiderman it was I believe on ugo.com, if anyone wants to look for it good luck.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think by far Venom or carnage would be the best villians for an upcoming spiderman movie, like unfairman said, they would look so cool with the visual effects!!!
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

I think the Lizard would be good.


As for Venom, they should build up to it in previous movies, showing the rivalry between Peter Parker and that guy. It could be like a grand finale, his ultimate nemesis.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
i looked on ugo .com and all i found was spidy pis sp wer is it im a long time spidy fan and i luv venom n carnage so dear god tell me
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
i belive there should be some kind of venom carnage team up were the team up 2 kill spiderman every other villan sux apart from those 2 name another villan who could defeat them huh
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

02/07/03
A scooper says Jake Gyllenhaal will make a brief appearance as Kletus Kasady in this sequel, as a set-up for a larger role alongside Venom in Spider-Man 3. (ZENtertainment)


That is one of the rumors at movies.com here is the link Link

Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think that the one villian who could take just about any of the others down would have to be mysterio. come on, he knows what makes a guy shiver. you can't honestly say that an alien that only knows killing would know how to battle against a mind warp.

or how about the nice little spider slayers? not exactly great, but It would look sweet in a spidy movie...

Capt. over and out!
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm willing to say that Venom is a fairly safe bet. Not knowing how the Osborn storyline comes around in this story may put a damper on that (there's the possibility, I suppose, of some sort of Green Goblin coming back). Venom is not nearly "new," by the way, as Secret Wars (which introduced the costume) was in 1984, and Venom first appeared in Amazing #299 in early '88. He doesn't have some of the "age" of the other villains listed, but he does have at least as much baggage.
Manuevering around the Secret Wars origin is easily done, as well. Although somewhat clumsily executed, the Fox Spider-Man cartoon handled this. My concern is the matter of tying the symbiote to Parker, and still having time (movie-wise) to have it seek revenge/become Venom.
I hope that they don't go the road of the Batman franchise, and insist on sandwiching two unrelated villains into the same film just because they can. They dropped the ball in Batman 2 by not introducing Two-Face, IMHO.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

They dropped the ball in Batman 2 by not introducing Two-Face, IMHO.


I think that Billy Dee Williams was supposed to play Two Face.  He played the character who would eventually become Two Face in the first movie, but then didn't show up in subsequent movies.


Here's a villian that I had forgotten previously: Kraven the Hunter.  The downside of Kraven would be that there is a risk of the perception of cruelty to animals.


*I also like the idea of the Spider Slayer, but the conflict between Jameson and Spiderman may not be deep enough to make a movie out of.

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't know that he was ever lined up to play Two Face, but yeah he was Harvey Dent in the first film. I sort of wished he had a bigger part as that, that they had developed his friendship with Wayne, and that they might've landed him for the villain of the second film, sure. And they could've easily introduced a (properly immature) Robin due to this introduction, perhaps later in the film, with the adoption of Dick Grayson at the *end* of the film, not gumming up the storyline...
But, back to Spidey. Kraven could be a decent choice. There was a fairly interesting take on him in the Ultimate Spider-Man book. Actually, I would expect a decent amount of the potential material, at least as it relates to villains, to come from the Ultimate line. The relationships that the movie Spidey faces are a bit more like the traditional comic Spidey, but the filmmakers may feel a need to make the villains "kewler" and "more hip" so the kids nowadays will "groove on" the movies. Dig?
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
hello does any1 hav a brain here if u make just the same villan like in 1 n 2 then it will b the same sorta thing its gotta b different like carnage and venom come on they wer frens in da cartoon y noton the big screen
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
wat about dople ganger has any 1 herd of him also i'd like 2 add that if venom was in it there could b the howl black costume thing spidy gettin taken over by venoms symbiot????????
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
What do you guys think will be the main villain in X-Men 3.  We were obviously clued into the appearance of the phoenix in the next one in X2 so I wonder if they will go with Jean Greys evil side first...
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
I hope we, eventually, get some signs of villians like in uncanny X-Men, the ones that were the "evolved" form of the mutants. They were like huge, beastly, warriors. I doubt it, but It would be so awesome. Or how about some of the ol' Jugernaut?

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Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bogis - I think there are enough Spider-fans that don't like Venom (and more that don't like Carnage) that this opinion may get taken into account. As far as Doppleganger goes, I had to google for him. As he is tied pretty specifically to the Infinity mini-series (-es?), I don't think he'd make it in. Besides, you're the one calling for something "different." How different is he than just Venom or Carnage (who are fairly similar, themselves). Additionally, one has to take into account what the general viewing public will want from the film. The film *cannot* simply cater to the fanboy fan base.

As for X3, I'd like to see the Hellfire Club. (Okay, now who's giving into fanboy desires...) Hey, at least I said I'd *like* to see it. And it would tie in well with the Pheonix power and storyline. The sentinel program may be the best bet, at least if they can get the visuals done right.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Juggernaut would be great, they would have to probably use cgi though.  As far as Spiderman Villains Venom or Carnage I personally think are two of the best ones considering they are just augmented versions of Spiderman plus the costume effect for Venom would be awesome in a big budget Hollywood movie.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top

While I would like to see the Lizard, Scorpion, Rhino, or Vulture, I just think they are too similar to he villains we have been provided to date. They are essentially all strong guys that beat up on spiderman.

Electro or Mysterio would be interesting (and I agree they would need to revamp Electro's ultra-lame costume).

I think Chameleon would be interesting as well, but I don't think there is enough time in a movie to really get into that character, and there would need to be at least one other villain to provide the muscle.

The things I like about the Green Goblin and Doc Ock is that they are smart. Offering a juggernaut of power, like the Rhino or Scorpion, may be intertaining in a comic, but it really lacks gravitas on the big screen.

Venom might be ok. They can do some interesting effects with that character, and they can probably condense/revamp his origin sufficiently. I've never been a fan of Venom, and even less so of Carnage, but that is my personal view. I think Carnage's backstory would be too complex for a movie, and I don't see what you get from using him over Venom anyway.


As for X3, I too would love to see the Hellfire Club. I also want to see more of Colossus.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top

For those of you following this thread, read the above post.  It is fantastic.

Now I have seen the second Spider Man movie.  There seemed to be a bit of foreshadowing of Harry Osbourne becoming a second Green Goblin or a Hobgoblin. 

I think that if they go with that, it will be a bit of a letdown.  If they choose to, here is one fan that hopes that they'll double-up on the bad guys.

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A TOPIC FOR ANOTHER BLOG.  Spoiler-alert!!

I wanted to write about this before, but I didn't want to spoil the movie in my headline.

Since the Batman movies, the villian in each superhero movie has been killed at the end.  As Doctor Octopus is my favorite Spider Man villian, I was reasonably disappointed that he was killed-off at the end.  -I wouldn't mind if Dock Ock were to return in a subsequent movie.  He was a fantastic villian!

Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think that they'd be sitting on Doctor Doom to use him in the Fantastic Four movie.