Isn't it a bit lame..

..that in the later game, the only way to get a planets moral back up is to ship off a 1/4 of the population. This for me is incredibly annoying when i have 30+ planets all suddenly dropping to 30% moral, despite i have almost every tec and building to reduce moral, also for my civ bonus i selected the Joyous trait, and the govt style thet adds +20% moral, looking at my civ bonuses, i have a +60% moral, but i still dont have a planet over 40% moral. (Despite spending a fortune on propaganda too!) My tax rate is only about 12%. Is this *really* meant to work this way? I dont even have any planets to move them to, so i end up deleting them. To be honest in my current game, on a large map..its becoming an incredible chore :

~SDC~
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Reply #1 Top
Also..

isnt it lame that in the later game, the only way to get a planets moral back up is to ship off a 1/4 of the population. This for me is incredibly annoying when i have 30+ planets all suddenly dropping to 30% moral, despite i have almost every tec and building to reduce moral, also for my civ bonus i selected the Joyous trait, and the govt style thet adds +20% moral, looking at my civ bonuses, i have a +60% moral, but i still dont have a planet over 40% moral. (Despite spending a fortune on propaganda too!) My tax rate is only about 12%. Is this *really* meant to work this way? I dont even have any planets to move them to, so i end up deleting them. To be honest in my current game, on a large map..its becoming an incredible chore :

~SDC~
Reply #2 Top
Nirvana

Yes, it's annoying to say the least, but you can profit from it. Just load them off into transports and sell them for tribute to another civ. I only worry about morale when it comes right before an election, and I always have a few combat transports standing by to off load extra folks and raise morale. You raise morale, keep control of the senate, and depending on how many transports you have, you may make an extra few hundred a month for the next 2 years until you do it again. When you're given a bushel of lemons, make alot of lemonade, and sell it!! LOL

~SDC~
Reply #3 Top
Another good use for them in the latter part of the game is to send them to your "frontier" or "border" planet that you are making transports on to supplement the planet after you have sent out troops. This tactic has worked quite well for me. You don't have to wait to make another transport.

~SDC~
Reply #4 Top
Or use Propoganda to make the folks happier so you
don't have to keep shipping them off!

-Doug :)
Reply #5 Top
Thanks

I have all the buildings a upgrades, and Propoganda on full, but im still hovering about 30%, luckily i have just decided to go for a military win, i made about 30 combat transports to help me invade..next turn my average planet moral is 92% up from 34%

Surely this is a bit overkill?

~SDC~
Reply #6 Top
Nirvana,

What is your economy like? Are you still making money or do you have a deficit? Defecit is a morale killer. Doesn't sound like it since you are still able to build transports. Another less popular option is to simply go back to Imperial Government. This way you don't need to worry about loosing control of the senate. I have yet to run into such a morale problem, mainly because I enjoy playing the smaller scale games (easier to finish in an evening).
Let us know if you come up with a solution. I do like the one about selling the transports though. That is a good potential moneymaker.
Reply #7 Top
Ha! We Populists scoff at your morale problems!

(Er ... unless we lose control of the Senate ...)

~SDC~
Reply #8 Top
Hmm i *am* the populists, my econ is so-so im in the green, making maybe 50bc a turn, tax is at 0% all planets have the improvements to improve morale. I have propaganda up to full on all worlds.
This is only a problem on my Large map games, the ones on small maps dont experience this to the same degree.
Overall my Civ has a bonus of about 72% to morale, i have just started using Starbases to improve moral, but once moral improves, the planet grows again and morale is back to the usual 30%.
Luckily im having fun in a massive war, and the amount of combat transports im making is keeping my morale in the 90's

Can anyone else see something stupid im doing wrong?

~SDC~
Reply #9 Top
Nirvana, if you have ALL the upgrades why haven't you won a Tech victory then? Sounds fishy.

~SDC~
Reply #10 Top
I'm having problems understanding this -- I've never run into anything like it. I keep tax rate around 50%, make the appropriate planetary upgrades (entertainment networks and stadiums), gather the appropriate morale boosters in tech and from anomolies, and I never go that low, except on new planets. You say your tax is at 0%? How can that be?

~SDC~
Reply #11 Top
I've only seen that in one game. Any chance anyone is destablizing you?
Reply #12 Top
Yeah, his experience sounds anomolous.

~SDC~
Reply #13 Top
Dearmad, I prefer to win by military not Culture or tech :) Besides i have only just been able to start uploading wins, and i still cannot upload the old pre patch games. That said, the only game that has uploaded is a culture win hehe.

How do i know if someone is destabilizing me?
Reply #14 Top
Unless you've invested in your own espionage you probably won't get a message about it... your spies are a good defense as far as I can tell.

You can sometimes tell it's destabl. when you go to the planet details screen and up the propoganda setting and yur approval rating goes WAY up instead of only a little bit.

~SDC~
Reply #15 Top
hmm my propoganda does move it up from 30% to 70%ish.

For some reason the setting doesnt stick, and the next turn propoganda on my planets is back at 0

~SDC~
Reply #16 Top
opps meant to edit, i re-installed the game and patches, not my propoganda stays at what i set it, much more manageable now!!

~SDC~