Queers out of Control

do you have a link?

a link would be great, thanks

Really?...Really?

I can understand the anger and frustration...but holy crap!

I would very much like to read the source as well...this is damn near unbelievable.

~Zoo

If that is true,

Even if the acts of the gay community are unforgivable, the Christians didn't helped themselves by provoking them.

I've not seen any source on this one.  Assuming the basics are correct, how is it provoking by peacefully assembling (a Constitutional right) and practicing their religion (again, another Constitutional right)? 

Even if this WAS a provokation, how does it justify the police standing by while folks are assaulted (sexually and physically)? 

If the actual events are even close to what is described, then San Franscisco has sunk to a deeper low than I thought was possible.  Even for them.

for those that just caznnot take my word for this, here is the much asked for link:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/17/anti-prop-8-mob-watch-san-franciscos-castro-district/

Provoking them?  Exercising your rights is now provocation?  Newspeak is here!  Ban all rights!  They might provoke some lunatic!

God save us from the thought police!

You know, if they had ignored the Christians, no one would have heard about it, no one would have cared.  But like most of the loons on the extreme left, they have to make asses of themselves to demonstrate the real hate is inside themselves.

Wow.  I wonder how the media would have portrayed this fiasco if the Christians retaliated with a REAL game of smear the queers. 

Cikomyr, out of curiosity did you condemn the gays for provoking the Christians with their post election protest from overthrowing Prop 8?  Or was this because the Christians didn't do anything?

So by your own words Martin Luthur King was a provacatuer and he should have never been allowed to walk in any white community for fear of provoking the white folk? dude you are one screwed uo person.

I believe it.  I've seen all sorts of stuff up close when you get on the bad side of these homosexual activists.  I've never seen such hate and disgusting things they do because they don't get their way. 

Right now all over the country there has been all sorts of angry demonstrations because of the outcome of the vote in CA.  They don't take losing very well.

The homosexuals are very angry and letting everyone know it and pay for it.  My son who is a journalist said the news coverage is silent right now for some reason.  There are AP articles all over the place but many of the news editors are choosing NOT to print them in their papers.  You can check this by using google. There are tons of articles out there explaining what's going on.  Good luck finding much about this in your local news. 

Hmmm I wonder why that is? 

A classic case of victimizing the victim.  Why does it seem that the left are more prone to this mentality?

MM,

Thanks for posting yet another stirring blog.....these things need to be told.

By the comments thus far, it seems to be news to all of us....which can only mean the mainstream media didn't cover it.  Wonder if Fox Cable did/will?

Alas, homosexual activists intolerance of others freedom of assembly and speech, especially if they are Christians, shouldn't surprise anyone, anymore.

CIKOMYR POSTS:

These acts are forgivable and that is the Christian way......the larger question is will these people be held accountable?

How exactly did the Christians provoke them? Since when is peacefully gathering on street corners provoking?  

Oncwe again we see how it works, the left protests by spitting on vets and that's ok, the right {Christians} walk down a public street praying and are harassed assaulted and that's a bad thing. Typical!!!!!

The San Franfreako papers would have gone insane, the police would have made dozens of arrests.

Hence me writing about it!

Praying for someone should not be provocation.

Ironic reversal of roles from the usual stereotype.

The 'accepted' typical scenario has a bunch of good ole boys, otherwise known as rednecks, hanging out at the local pool hall and some gays show up to have a few beers or whatever.

Well that's a little more provocation than the good ole boys can stand, so they commence to foul language, hooping and hollering and maybe even doling out a little bit of country boy ass kicking to those 'queers' for having the audacity to come into 'their' neighborhood.

Now we have gays kicking granny's ass and stomping on her cross for coming into 'their' neighborhood and having the audacity to pray.

Same play; different actors.

Oh ya,,,,,the mainstream media would be all over it like bees on honey...we'd have known all the details had the tables been reversed.  

AIDS is the first media and politically protected disease....and the truth about their destructive and violent side and this is never told by the media. For example , domestic violence and physical abuse is rampant in the homosexual community, yet no one knows.  The media is silent.

PICTORATUS POSTS:

Nice try, but not the same play.....both granny and the crowd of praying Christians were EXERCISING their freedom of assembly...nothing more, nothing less....they were in the right, not the wrong....

Whereas, if as in your description, the redneck guys assault those "queers", then they are in the wrong....

About "Provoking":

Christians hold the value that the gay community lives in sin. They came in not to claim a right of equality, but to "pray for their souls". It's not even remotely close of Martin Luther King's, who was fighting for equal right for his people. If Martin Luther King had claimed that "Pray for them, because they are White, and God will forsake them", I would have understood violent reaction on the part of the whites.

the Christians are looking toward removing the very existence of the gay community. They are claiming that their soul is corrupted, that they are deviant and living in sin. They went to "pray for them", which is implicating that the gay community are a clear "Evil" in their religion. If this isn't a kind of provocation, what is? If I walk up to you, and tell you that everything you are is against my belief, how isn't that a provocation?

You are just a bunch of people who are looking for a way to devilise these peoples any way you can. The Orangists in Northen Ireland also were "Peacefully Demonstrating, as it is their right" in catholic communities, and it is no less of a provocation. The gay community is fighting for equal right, and for the acceptance of their way of living. They don't try to enforce homosexuality on you, but they try to make sure any homosexual won't feel marginalised just because he is what he is. Just as it isn't bad for a christian for a christian not to feel shame about what he is. But the problem is, you don't choose to be gay or not, but you choose your religion.

You can choose to accept your homosexuality or not, however. And these people want to make sure nobody will feel wrong about doing it.

And while these people are looking for a way to improve the acceptance in society, you christians walk in and hammer them with "You live in Sin. God will punish you. We will pray for you, however" in an hypocritical statements. "Hate the sin, not the sinner" my ass, KFC, and to all the christians. The people you so-say not "hate" are still potential at treath for their health BECAUSE of people like you.

Maybe I should have provided a program, although I thought it would be evident which players had assumed which roles.

The aggressors in Act I are the 'good ole boys' who feel threatened by the existence of the gays in the bar having a beer, while the aggressors in Act II are the gays who feel threatened by the existence of the Christians praying in their neighborhood. Both the gays in the bar having a beer and the Christians praying were 'EXERCISING' their freedom of assembly.

The only 'provocation' by the groups being attacked in both scenes is that of merely existing and for being in the position of serving as a visual reminder of what I suspect the aggressors in both groups fear ... an invalidation of their beliefs and/or lifestyle.

The thing to ask is why would some of the patrons of the bar in the first scenario and some of the gays in the neighborhood in the second scenario be content to let people different from themselves alone to go about their lives in peace without attacking them?

Perhaps they are secure in their own beliefs and/or lifestyle and don't feel threatened by alternate viewpoints? Perhaps they are ... tolerant?

Yes it is.  It is a direct parallel.  We can no more change ancient ROman society than we can change the Ante Bellum SOuth.  We can only look at the times we live in and change.  WHat MLK did was very provoking because it went against society (not a bad thing considering what society was doing, but that is beside the point).

You have the wrong horse here.  Clearly no one here, or the christians were doing that.  Just the loons that sought to make a peaceful demonstration (still legal in the US today - perhaps not tomorrow) a fire fight.

Uh, this is not Northern Ireland, nor are our laws their laws.  Bad comparison.  As this has already been done here peacefully (as I was on the other end of the demonstration in the past, and it was peaceful and no one got stoned).

How?  Are they demonstrating against the war by declaring war on everyone?  That is what they did.  If that was their intention, they blew it big time.  For instead of feeling wrong about it, it left many seeing that it is wrong.  Not by lifestyle, but by actions of the few.  This is a clear case of cutting off the nose to spite the face.  Lots of noseless homsexuals running around SF now.

And here you are flat out wrong,  I have lived most of my life basically in a missionary status, as I was one of a few (very few) Catholics out there.  And yes, I had the stares sneers and comments and even demonstrations against us.  I have been prayed for so many times (after all I am a devil worshipper), that I must be saved and have a sure fire ticket to heaven. Yet neither myself or any of my fellow Catholics ever stoned a demonstrator or stomped on their prayer book.

Because they have the right to condemn my lifestyle, as long as they do not then act upon their beliefs.  Here we have the same situation.  But instead of ignoring them (the best defense for this kind of action I have found), they sought to violently infringe on the rights of others.  This is AMerica.  Not some screwed up European or Commonwealth country where you can be jailed for saying "I dont like X".  If they do not like the fact that not everyone agrees with them, start a commune. Move to a totalitarian society.  But dont deny anyone of their rights jsut because you do not agree with them.

This is so not true.  So either you are deliberately lying to prove your point or you are truly very misinformed.  Homosexuals have been around for many years.  In fact, it's more prevalent today than ever.  So that can't be it. 

Sin corrupts.  PUre and simple.  No matter the sin.  Until lately homosexul activity was always considered sin.  From a Christian POV that hasn't changed even tho society is trying to tell us otherwise.  Praying for anybody is a good thing.  It's a positive, not a negative.  Praying for somebody means you care for them.  It's not a bad thing.  I covet the prayers of others. 

so what you're asking the Christian to do is to accept sin in society?  I'm sure there are many others out there who engage in other sinful behaviors who would like us also to accept them into society.  Should we? 

I don't hammer anyone with a "God will punish you" attitude.  That's not my style.  Do I believe God will punish sins?  Yes, absolutely. All sins regardless.  God is not a respector of sin.  We must speak the truth in love and to ignore sin is not showing love.  If I saw someone about to fall off a cliff should I ignore them because I don't want to embarras them or question their ability to take care of themselves?  Is that showing love?  Just let them fall headlong into a deadly situation? 

What you are telling me to do is much closer to hate than what the Christians are doing.  Praying for them and warning them of the consequences of their behavior is not hate.   Taking care of our neighbor means helping them in all aspects of life.  They may not want the help but we are to offer it anyhow.   Thousands have recognized this and walked away from the lifestyle never to return.  They understand the Christian that helped them along the way was showing them love, not hate.

Cikomyr, Did you or did you not condemn the provocation of the gays when they were out protesting in the streets after the passing of Prop 8 in California?