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The White Council Invitation

The White Council Invitation

The intent of the White Council is to band together a community of gamers who are interested to Galciv regularly and to contribute to improving the game while being useful members of this forum.

The pre-requiste for a White Council member is basic commitment to the above purpose. There is no requirement for you to be as clinical a finisher as "I can win in my sleep" Staffa or have the workrate of Sergey the dark horse/black sheep. :)

You might ask as to why you should join the Council where you could be a regular contributor by yourself. The White Council is an opportunity for you to belong to a small community within the big Galciv one. You would also be assured of help or assistance from your fellow Council members as needed.

If you are keen to join the Council, follow this link and click Join http://www.galciv.com/metaverse/empires.asp?id=329
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Reply #126 Top
Congrats on promotion and Welcome Shakaar!

It's Friday!!! Can't wait to put in some time in Galciv!

Now for some out of topic stuff (check out the mad breaking)
http://fileshack.nopulse.org/infodeep.php?num=59
Reply #128 Top
I found that post to be an extremely fun read too.

Kudos to Ten12, whoever he is.
Reply #129 Top
True, that was an interesting read. But, no matter what is really up with those Euros, they seem too distracted to notice the wise mages and the ruthless pirates sneaking up upon them...
Reply #131 Top
So it IS the case that Japanese and Chinese scripts mean the same thing written, although the spoken languages are different?
Reply #132 Top
To me, the White Council is not a Good empire per se. The Council in LOTR bred both evil Saruman (though he was stripped subsequently) and good Gandalf. I have to check this with our inhouse Tolkien expert. Hey Chris, does White Council stand for all things nice and good in LOTR?
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Dark has been my road in recent times, and long have I laboured on the White Council's behalf. Let me tell my tale. RayChua the Black set me a Quest to discover the origins and ethos of the White Council. But who now would know? With that thought, I forsook the chase, and passed swiftly to Gondor (1). In former days the members of the Order had been well received there, but Saruman most of all. Often he had been for long the guest of the Lords of the City. Less welcome did the Lord Denethor (2) show me than of old, and grudgingly he permitted me to search among his hoarded scrolls and books.

"If indeed you look only, as you say, for records of ancient days, and The White Council, read on!" he said. "For to me what was is less dark than what is to come, and that is my care. But unless you have more skill than Saruman, who has studied here long, you will find naught that is not well known to me, who am master of the lore of this city."

So said Derethor. And yet there lie in his hoards many records that few now can read, even of the lore-masters, for their scripts and tongues have become dark to later men. This did I find. Isildur did not march away straight from the war in Mordor, as some have told the tale. He went first to Minas Arnor and dwelt with his nephew (2A), instructing him, before he committed to him the rule of the Northern Kingdom. Long has that kingdom been lost (3). But in that time also he made this scroll, and thus wrote Isildur therin:

'The Great Ring (12) shall go now to be an heirloom of the Southern Kingdom (4); but records of it shall be left in Gondor, where also dwell the heirs of Elendil, lest a time come when the memory of these great matters shall grow dim.'

And after these words an heir of Isildur described The White Council, such as he found it.

'Even as the first shadows were felt in Mirkwood (5) there appeared in the west of Middle-Earth the Istari, whom men call the Wizards. None knew at that time whence they were, save Cirdan of the Havens, and only to Elrond and to Galadriel did he reveal that they came over the Sea. But afterwards it was said among the Elves that they were messengers sent by the Lords of the West to contest the power of Sauron, if he should rise again, and to move Elves and men and all living things of good will to valiant deeds. In the likeness of men (6) they appeared, old but vigorous, and they changed little with the years, and aged but slowly (7), though great cares lay on them; great wisdom they had, and many powers of mind and hand. Long they journeyed far and wide among Elves and men, and held converse also with beasts and with birds; and the peoples of Middle-earth gave to them many names, for their true names they did not reveal. Chief among them were those whom the Elves called Mithrandir and Curunir, but Men in the North (8) named Gandalf and Saruman. Of these Curunir was the eldest and came first, and after him came Mithrandir and Radagast, and others of the Istari who went into the east of Middle-earth, and do not come into these tales.
'Now at length the Shadow (9) returned and its power increased; and in that time was first made the Council of the Wise that is called the White Council, and therin were Elrond and Galadriel and Cirdan, and other lords of the Eldar, and with them were Mithrandir and Curunir. Then the White Council was summoned; and Mithrandir urged them to swift deeds, well knowing the evil deeds of the Shadow, but Curunir spoke against him, and counselled them to wait yet and to watch.
"For I believe not" said he, "that the Shadow will ever be dominant in Middle-earth. Into the Southern Seas they fell, and long ago, I deem, they lost the Beer Wars. Out of the top 3 shall they lie until the end, when all this world is broken and the scores are removed".
Thereafter nought was done, though Elrond's heart misgave him. "Many are the chances of the world," said Mithrandir, "and help oft shall come from the hands of the weak (10) when the wise shall falter."
Thus the Wise were troubled, but none as yet perceived that Curunir (11) had turned to dark thoughts and was already a traitor in heart: for he desired that he and no other should find the Great Ring (12) so that he might wield it himself and order all the world to his will. Too long he had studied the ways of Sauron (13) in hope to defeat him, and now he envied him as a rival rather than hated his works.'

Well, fair folks, you get the gist of the origins of the White Council, and the grand ethos it stands for. This was the somewhat abridged version. The conjectures below are mine alone. Clearly, further study must be done on just what names Curunir (who is on the White Council) and Sauron now go under. I can speculate, but will not yet tell you my mind.

But a final warning I shall make because my heart has warmed to the members of the White Council. When all these things are done, and the Heir of Isildur (10) has taken up the lordship of Men, and the dominion of the West has passed to them, then it is made plain that the power of the Three Rings (14) also shall end, and to the Firstborn (15) the world will grow old and grey. In that time the last of the Firstborn shall set sail from the Havens and leave Middle-earth for ever.

So um, let me be the first to say, see ya and have a good trip.


(1) Now the suburbs of Wellington.
(2) Who now, I believe, models himself as 'Code Monkey'.
(2A) The nephew later styled himself as Frogboy!!?
(3) Currently adrift at 11th place I believe.
(4) Need I point out where that is.
(5) Now known as the Mid West.
(6) Are you taking all of this in, RayChua and fellow monks? Is this what you want to be??
(7) Oh OK. I see the flip side now.
(8) The Euro Alliance perhaps, or the Vikings? None now know.
(9) But as we do now know- G.R.O.S.S.
(10) Mayhap another reference to the Southern Kingdom?
(11) Prithee, what name does Curunir now go under?
(12) A veiled reference to the 'Great Score'?
(13) And Sauron is..?
(14) The top 3 Empires of Galciv?
(15) The inaugural Galciv members I suspect.

[*Note: Some facts may have been changed or re-arranged for dramatic effect]
Reply #133 Top
*enthusiastic applause* Wonderful, Christopher, wonderful :) It gives me a hankering to go read the book again...

As for further answers, well... ask the Elves! ... hmm, but there's only one around that I've seen...
Reply #134 Top
As for further answers, well... ask the Elves! ... hmm, but there's only one around that I've seen...
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She's here isn't she?? Has her own fanclub she does.

Senator idleprocess
'Manifest Destiny'
The Mid-Western Confederation
http://idle.thehueys.com/midwest

~SDC~
Reply #135 Top
Now that we have the morality showing up. I think it would be interesting if your requirements is that all of your members must have an overall morality of Very Good in order to stay in your empire!
Reply #136 Top
T-Man: interesting enough that Fearless Leader (my nickname for anyone stuck with me as a subordinate) is the only evil player on the White Council according to the smileys :) I'm sure we can all fill in the blanks from our paranoid sense of humor on what that means.
Reply #137 Top
You are all being led to the dark side, are you wise
enough to see the truth before you?

Id offer you refuge in our embrace, but yea, we don't
hide that we are evil, so that probably wont fly :)

Reply #138 Top
You are all being led to the dark side, are you wiseenough to see the truth before you?Id offer you refuge in our embrace, but yea, we don'thide that we are evil, so that probably wont fly
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There is no good and evil in this game, only power, and those brave enough to use it. All are welcome within the survey ship of doom regardless of tactics. No leader of the winning side has ever been tried for a war crime. So we kill a few giant sentient tape worms along the way. They are still tape worms. History is written by the victor. We'll be able to portray ourselves however we please once we win. :)
Reply #139 Top
Welcome to our thread, T-Man. You honour us with your presence.

While I would be the first to admit to a dark megalomaniac side in me, I'm really curious about the alignment thing.

Since I'm second on the Good board with 12,000 points and 6th on the Evil board with 7,400, it is obvious that alignment is not point based. Is my evil alignment due to the fact that my number of evil games > no of good games won?
Reply #140 Top
Christopher,

For your great service to the White Council in the completion of that most dangerous quest, we grant you honorary membership to the White Council.

But surely you deserve further accolades, you are hereby granted the prestigious title of:

Grand Sorcerer Junior Grade of The Ancient Order of Tolkien Fanaticism, Christopher "Dramatic" Packer
Reply #142 Top
Council Members,

An update on our community projects. We currently have three in incubation. Before I go into them, let me share with you what I think my own role would be. I would be focusing my energies on overall coordination and drumming up support (cheerleader) for our projects. For each project that moves out of incubation, we need a project coordinator and basically a couple of workhands.

Alright, the projects:-

Project 1 - The Suggestive Sort

Objective - To summarise the suggestion lists in the forum in a logical and useful way to Stardock and future suggestors

Current Members - Gezz

Project 2 - The Community Hall of Fame

Objective - To collate interesting and fun stuff from our forum experience for posterity

Current Members - None (hoping that russell from Terran ex Machina empire will join this. J4, this seems down your alley)

Project 3 - The War Room

Objective - To collate Galciv strategies and make them useful and accessible to Galcivers

Current Members - redshift8, Ellestar (Sergey - are you in on this? Saw your post on wanting to write about your strategy. I'm sure folks would be interested in the musings of 3 Top25 players at the very least.)

Other Council Members, let me know the project/s that you would like to support.

We would have to make a decision on which project/s to kick-off depending on the resources that we can garner.

I would also be making a bipartisan call for support from the Galciv community shortly, maybe after this weekend.
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Reply #145 Top
Aye Redshift, it would seem that the goddess of the Metaverse has smiled upon us and bestowed us with this honour.

As a "good" empire, this is as much an outpouring of joy that we could display at reaching such an achievement.

Compare this against the wild drunken orgies that would most certainly erupt over at GROSS once they too reach the pinnacle of the Metaverse.
Reply #146 Top
Drunken orgies? Well, I can't speak for my shipmates, but I will just be drunk. Period. Letting one's guard down when you reach the top of the heap can be a dangerous thing. So drunk, yes. Drunk and partying, no. Someone's got to stand watch.

Oh, and guard that obviously elvish brandywine of yours, magi. We're coming to get it one day. ;)
Reply #147 Top
Compare this against the wild drunken orgies that would most certainly erupt over at GROSS once they too reach the pinnacle of the Metaverse.

It's easy to be temperate when you're as old and ugly as you geezer wizzards are.

Speaking of intoxication, you guys puffing and dragging on that halfling hash isn't all that kosher either.

And all you get is smiles from the Goddess. She dresses in leather when she comes to see me.


Reply #148 Top

Project 3 - The War Room

Objective - To collate Galciv strategies and make them useful and accessible to Galcivers

Current Members - redshift8, Ellestar (Sergey - are you in on this? Saw your post on wanting to write about your strategy. I'm sure folks would be interested in the musings of 3 Top25 players at the very least.)
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I'll wait for The White Council Empire projects to participate in it. If i'm starting something by himself, it will be at Apolyton. I'll see if your empire may do more than i alone (only useful staff counted, not a metaverse score) :p

~SDC~
Reply #149 Top
I'm in Project 3 but not on regular basis. Just now I'm preparing report about my games on large maps
Reply #150 Top
RayChua,

Would it be alright if I slip over to GROSS for the next wild drunken orgy? Just for research mind you.

~SDC~