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Was wondering if TB can earn exp and gold as quickly as other DG's and how is their killing ability? I know they don't survive well from what I have read and heard but that could be from players who don't play him well. Please let me know... Thanks...
TB specialized for area of effect can outlevel just about any dg. He completely destroys the creep waves which is the best way to level.
TBs aren't fantastic DG killers, they're more about control. Fireball doesn't do that much damage, in fact UB spit does more damage at max rank. There's also lots of counters to Fireball because of the long cast time (Stuns/Shields). The only time you can get a lot of burst off on a DG is if you go Frost and get the 3x Shatter bonus. I have found Frost to definitely be the best all-round focus, plus you can shoot on the move with Frost form.
That being said, you still need to bounce between forms whenever you're not fighting in order to keep up the weapon damage and mana regen buffs.
Another quick tip: If you're Fire and an enemy DG is running from you after you hit him with a Fireball, jump into Frost mode. It only takes 0.5s and you can fire on the move then plus you get the weapon damage buff. Switching to Frost was well thought-out by the designers in this regard, definitely something to kill runners 
Yup TB out levels most DG IMO. If you feeling greedy and have 2 lanes kinda close together run up and an aoe one down and then run to the next your get twice the xp !
Good tip with switching to frost never really thought of that. I dislike that you can't shoot on the run with fire mode tho.
TB is extraordinarily good at farming. On cataract you can farm both lanes at one time.
Sedna needs help with gold and xp gains.
TB does not.
I'm speaking as someone who had to learn this as well, so I'm not looking down on you. If you are having trouble getting gold and xp as TB, then it's a matter of how you're playing him and not the character himself.
I'm saying this as a non-UB player.
I always see this, about how UB spit does soo much damage. If you have enough HP/s, which you should, or atleast something that can give you health, the UB spit is kinda weak IMO. It's the only move (off the top of my head) that has it's damage reduced by the enemy demigod (HP/s). If it's ticking for 115 and I'm regenning 30, it's only ticking for 85 effectively. Consider the heals coming from your priests and other DG's and it really doesn't equate to that much. I actually fear fireball much more because if I have less than the health that it hits for, I'm dead when it lands. Not as true with UB.
I've done really well as a fire TB and very not well as a frost or hybrid TB. You need the movement speed boost to survive as a TB and it helps when killing other DGs too. A hybrid build with the fire aura could probably work, but I really can't imagine doing well with the DG without that movement speed.
Edit: I say this because you seem to be saying that you don't expect him to survive but maybe he can make up for it with farming. I don't think that's necessarily the way to do it.
Aside from the citadel upgrades and mines, the only real source of income is killing demigods. Endgame, when you compare the amount of gold you earned killing creeps to your total, it's only an extremely small fraction (>>5%). TB deals significant damage, but doesn't seem as good at killing demigods due to casting delays (standing still while casting means you can't chase) and mode change delays. It follows from this, that he isn't as good at getting gold as other demigods. Assists are worth a lot though, so your best bet money-wise is help your allies get to kills. As the other mention, he's super good at xp farming.
Just wanted to add that as a result of fireball doing somewhat less dmg than spit, TB can be a better killer. It is more often a question of using your abilities with the right timing. If you start with your dot (such as circle and normal atk) most are just going to view it as soak dmg... nothing to worry about yet. You throw in an early fireball, they might be inclined to stay in it because they think it doesn't do as much dmg... but keep in mind recasts, and other abilities (such as fire nova). You don't have to weather as much pounding agaisnt each other, because within that 15m radius, you have a tremendous burst dmg ability.
By the same token, as one of only three ranged attackers, a TB with +weapon dmg and + attack speed can be quite deadly, precisely because of the native 15m range. When you attack twice per second for 400 dmg for 15m, it's hard for anyone to escape fast enough without having a stun or backup ready... which they probably already used on you.
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