Rook vs. Regulus: Impossible Proposition?

I've been playing Rook extensively as of late, and I came to find that I have a hard time against good Regulus players. As Rook, I like to lure overzealous enemies into the range of my tower farm where they are easy prey of my Boulder Roll and Hammer Slam. However, Regulus out-ranges my towers, forcing me to take a proactive stance, a decidedly more risky proposition. Not only that, a good Regulus never lets me get within striking range, all the while throwing down massive amounts of mines and taking pot shots at me. My speed does not allow me to pursue him. And if I return to my tower cluster, he resumes bombarding it from a distance. The only ability I have that is able to reach him is Boulder Roll, which by itself is completely useless. By the time he gets Mark of the Betrayer, I have even less of a chance against him. Usually at that point if I get below 1/2 life I'm good as dead.

As everyone knows, Regulus is incredibly popular for some reason. So I often come up against them. They are not always good, and the bad ones will allow me to get within melee range, which usually ends in their swift demise. However the good ones means I'm rarely able to get a kill on them, and it often turns into an exercise in frustration. Anyone here have a good strategy?

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Reply #1 Top

I would say to stop Tower Farming and put more points into Hammer slam, your turret upgrades such as Archer Tower and Beam Tower, then get the Bolder Roll of course. Get two points at least into Structural transfer and the rest into Hammer Slam and maybe some into God Strength.

 

I would think a way to catch a good Regulus off guard is to have a teleport ready with this more agressive build and when they go for one of your flags TP to it right on top of them if they stay too long and bolder roll/hammer slam right away and then try to chase as much as possible with your auto-attack turrets.

 

Gotta use a very agressive build with Rook to take someone down like Regulus, but ive been playing Pantheon really so I haven't really faught any Regulus in a long while.

Reply #2 Top

IMO, Regulus vs Rook is definitely one of the game's most slanted demigod matches.  It's not unbeatable, but it's definitely Regulus at his best and Rook at his worst.  However, there are some ways to deal with it.

As with TB, you want to keep your towers spread out so he has trouble hitting them all with one AoE ability.  Regulus is a little easier to stop than TB in this regard, and you should be able to deal with his area of effect damage with some modest spacing.  Your shoulder weapons are your friend here, since usually they will take a free shot on Regulus every time he tries to get a free shot on you.   I'd probably avoid hammer slam agianst Regulus and do structural transfer instead.  He can throw mines under you during its setup, and the end result will probably favour Regulus even if you get a direct hit with the hammer.

I find the key to playing Rook is to stop caring about other demigods, and this is especially true about Regulus.  Your goal is to push, meaning you want to move your towers forward and whittle away the enemy tower lines.  I've won plenty of games as Rook without ever getting a kill.  Regulus can snipe out your towers, but until he's a very high level the ability will recharge faster than he can kill them.  This means that if you play defensively your fortress will grow faster than he can blast it down.  You can actually push quite nicely even with active resistance, which is where Rook shines.

The final thing I'd add is that if it's a 1v1 Rook is in very bad shape.  He has trouble holding on to flags across the map and he's easily outflanked.  If you're in a team game, all you need to do is hold Regulus off and keep up your push.  Another demigod coming up from behind can easily kill Regulus if he's wasted all his mana trying to break down your fortress.  Just tire him out and play the Rook as the fortress he is.

 

Reply #3 Top

There are only a few things of me as rook able to score a kill on regulus.

1. Ally support.

2. Warp stone (4.5k) with boulder roll and "ban hammer" then chase wth shoulder upgrades.

3. strategic timing with creep upgrades.

4. ganking him from behind when he was fighting your tower at a narrow lane.

Things I haven't try.

1. Poison dagger favor item.

2. Pray that regulus suck.

3. Rage quit.

One thing for sure, on a tactical scale, regulus have almost every advantage over rook in 1v1.

Reply #4 Top

How about wand of speed to close the gap to boulder roll? Pull back from the tower farm and when you see him hitting the towers, use wand to catch up.

Reply #5 Top

if Regulus spares time to harass you constantly, he barely has time to farm, while you are in the midsts of farming and your towers will kill all the creeps, since reg is out of reach.

This battle of attrition should be in your favor.

Reply #6 Top

Nothing is impossible mate. The first thing that came to my mind was using items such as the wand and warp stone that Fhoeng already mentioned. Warp on his head, use boulder roll and hammer slam quickly and either get out or chase him with the wand depending on the situation. Due to Reg' range he will destroy your towers if you dont act aggresively resulting in your death.

Reply #7 Top

You do realize that every class needs a counter. Every class needs another class that is hard to kill. I mean if you can not understand that then you just want a FOTM class type of game. If thats the case try WoW or Warhammer they always have FotM classes.

Reply #8 Top

if Regulus spares time to harass you constantly, he barely has time to farm, while you are in the midsts of farming and your towers will kill all the creeps, since reg is out of reach.

This battle of attrition should be in your favor.
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this is true. also, reg is a lot worse against many other demigods. it never hurts to ask your team to help you with reg, they can tp right to your towers and after a couple times of boulder roll then your ally catching up to him and killing him will make him go bug someone else, usually. and if he doesn't go away just rinse and repeat, because you've got someone to feed off of.

Reply #9 Top

Guys, think of Rook without towers in his builds for once. You can push faster and more agressively without them sometimes. I have been chewing into enemy bases with just structural transfer and hammer slam lately and it also works for taking out enemy DG's that DO try to come impede your progress.

Reply #10 Top

Once again, I have to say that I have never seen this mythical Rook that forgoes towers and still performs well.  It works if you vastly outclass your opponent (say against AI's...), but I've never seen a successful Rook against competent players who didn't get towers.  I'll change my opinion when I see it, but to date I have not seen a competent Rook that doesn't get towers.

Reply #11 Top

As GuildForStrangler if he shows up in this thread. He beat me, but I still did very well without any towers at all.

Reply #12 Top

Towers are just very very mana efficient.  Level 4 towers supremely so.  I'm not exactly sure the DPS or Duration, but a single 200 mana tower does a whole lot over the course.  And unlike a lot of other abilities that can boast the same thing, these actually do work against Demigods.

 

That said, I do think that Boulder Roll is the truly most significant ability for a Rook player to get.

Reply #13 Top

If you really get down the Bolder Roll and Hammer Slam together it can be very devastating, but you really gotta time it perfectly or the enemy WILL probably get out of the way in time.

Reply #14 Top

Quoting Aroddo, reply 5
if Regulus spares time to harass you constantly, he barely has time to farm, while you are in the midsts of farming and your towers will kill all the creeps, since reg is out of reach.

This battle of attrition should be in your favor.
End of Aroddo's quote

This is so wrong.

If Regulus spares time to harass you constantly while you are farming, then HE is also farming...

Also a battle of attrition is ALWAYS in Regulus favor unless he is not taking passive abilities, or fighting UB.