What was that?

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In an effort to get my game up to par before venturing online, thereby at least giving myself some reasonable hope of victory in my first games, I'm tyring to make sure I never ask myself "What the hell was that?" while playing. Towards that goal, I have two questions:

 

A couple times, I've come across an unkillable Regulus. He shows up, I get into melee, often without taking damage (minion meathshield, warp stone, etc.), and I start waling away. However, he takes no damage. Every time his health dips below full, it's nigh-instantly restored. Even a level 2 penitence can't make a dent for longer than a couple seconds. This scenario has appeared on other AI DGs, but mostly on Regulus (at least thus far). So two questions, what did he have that made him so invulnerable (I've already checked his skills, and nothing seems to be able to cause this) and is there anything I can do about it other than just getting more firepower?

 

The other came up in my last game against Unclean Beast. The AI had set it entirely focused on speed and single-target death dealing, essentially an amazing DG assassin. One or more of his items appeared to be vampirism, as I was seeing a situation similar to Regulus above. Any damage dealt while he was moving stuck, but as soon as he started attacking a target he restored his health and become unkillable. This seems to be simple issue of stacking life leech equipment, but I don't see any way of countering it. He was too fast to dance while my minions worked him over (I was Oak at the time) and I couldn't stand and fight against him. How do I deal with a fast, high-damage, life-leech assassin?

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

several items grant life leeching attacks. 

 

please consult the Book of Armaments (http://demigoddb.com/) to learn more.

 

most common ones are probably Mageslayer or Narmoth's Ring. 

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

It's not as much of a question of how to deal with it, but rather how to prevent it.  Once a DG has items of that caliber and you don't, it is game over. If you and your team does not feed them gold by dying a lot, then you won't have to deal with unkillable DG's.  They will have the same gold as you which means equal gear.

Siege of Centauri
Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

Had problems more with Sedna using either stacking lifeleech and health per sec items than Reg but that's my experience. I know on her I can hit about 70ish health per sec with more easily attained items at the loss of armor value. Life leech seems better off on a high damage character such as Reg. Reg you can hit 250-300dmg easily early on with cheap stuff and AF so 10% leech with some haste is almost 30 health per sec or so.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

I had the same problem with a Sedna a while back.  It's primarily a combination of hard AI's getting bonus cash and your AI allies feeding lots of deaths, and they get some pretty wicked equipment.  Kinda stupid, because it's not your fault and there's largely nothing you can do about it except trying to win sooner.

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

Ashkandor - 12% lifesteal +25% attack speed, 10% crits for 4x
Mageslayer - 12% lifesteal + 25% attack speed.
Nrmoths Ring - 8% lifesteal, 750 health, 20hp/s

 

32% lifesteal, + 20hp/s. Not including any armour with health regens though.


Not including Aoe angelic fury damage, which might count lifesteal.

And if ashkandor crits, thats 32% of 1900.

 

Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

Yeah that kind of stuff only happens online if your allies (or you) have been feeding hardcore. If you have been killing the enemy Reg (as you should, as often as possible, in the early game), they will stay weak in the late game.

Yet another classic example of why the AI in this game is meaningless/imbalanced/stupid and no substitute for play against a live enemy.

Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

To sum it up, the AI cheats.  If you're on hard, or especially nightmare, random demigods will indeed become near-invulnerable, no matter how well you're doing.  This isn't something you'll see in real games versus players.  I hesitate to say "never", but I'm going to say it anyway: you will never see this in a game with real players.

These AI players will typically have impossibly high speed, health, health regen, attack speed, and base damage, and I think it is more likely to occur when an enemy demigod isn't getting killed very much.  The best way to prevent it is to control the artificat shop and never let them have it.  If the artifact shop is in the enemy base, well...good luck.

But you can still win if these super-powerful demigods show up.  The best strategy is to avoid that particular demigod unless they're pushing hard into your base.  If they're pushing into your base, try to attack along with your creep waves and focus everything you have on them.  If you're able to avoid that demigod, then push into the enemy base yourself and try to end the game as quickly as possible.

Also, if you encounter a super-powerful Rook, know that you are in a lot of trouble.

- Jaxian

 

Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top

As far as life steal goes, from what I've heard and seen it's calculated before armor reduction.