Unclean Beast - Best Favor Item: Essence of Magic !

This is clearly a caster items for mana hogs like TB, you say ?

And Blood of the Fallen is the best item, which even I say ?

The Ooze UB build recognizes the weakness of UB, which is his low mana base and his expensive skills, like Bestial Wrath and Foul Grasp. Sure, oozing UBs are very strong, but they sacrifice some powerful asssets in exchange for a boring playstyle.

Essence of Magic allows UB to take all active skills and use them without problems!

Well, let's see what that items does for us in the beginning and what kind of UB profits most from it.


Early Levels

Spit.
Cheap and strong. Great against buildings. But even though it's cheap, UB can't use it continually without additional helmets, thus sacrificing melee power. Two spits and you are out of mana. But with EoM you can spit four times in a row without a break. And since you usually get a break, you'll probably never see UB run out of mana in the early levels!

Spit -> EoM+Spit -> Spit -> Spit

Cooldown for Spit is 7 seconds, which means 210 mana regenerated before the fourth spit. You start with 1302 mana, lose 1000 mana through spit 1&3 and and up with 512 mana, enough for spit 4. At level 1.

Foul Grasp.
Top priority at level 5. And the EoM ability allows you to both spit and grasp for free, if you time it right.

Mid Levels

Spit costs more, but by then your mana pool is larger and your income is still decent even without taking any helmets. The EoM ability allows you to use your skills for free, while regenerating your pool. If you want to increase your mana regeneration rate, then do so. But I found that I didn't need more.

Late Game

A skill i barely ever took before was Bestial Wrath. It sounds great, but it's incredibly expensive and it stops you in your tracks for half a second. But with EoM it's for free and you can even squeeze off a Spit of Foul Grasp in the EoM effect. By this time you need no extra mana items either if you equipped UB for heavy melee. Even though your skills drain your mana pool quite quickly, you can pull them off most of the time when it matters.

And the sweet thing about EoM is that you can use your skills even when your pool is bone dry.

 

The UB build I used is an Ooze/Spit hybrid, which was a bit harder to play before the discovery of EoM. And Bestial Wrath was nearly impossible to afford earlier.

  • Spit V
  • Ooze IV
  • Inner Beast IV
  • Diseased Claws II
  • Bestial Wrath V

I focus on Spit and Ooze all the time and squeeze some Inner Beast or Diseased Claws in when possible. Bestial Wrath is my late game pick.

Equipment is about the same as Ooze Builds, emphasizing first life & life regeneration, then armor, then damage.

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Reply #1 Top

I haven't tried this, but in terms of inventory space, you're saying this is better than just getting a Vlemish helm, then Anklets or Blood of the Fallen for favor?

Reply #2 Top

Quoting Shadow_Avenger, reply 1
I haven't tried this, but in terms of inventory space, you're saying this is better than just getting a Vlemish helm, then Anklets or Blood of the Fallen for favor?
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Yes, because this thing allows you a mana intensive playing style all the time without having to heavily invest in mana items.

EoM scales while the BotF bonus diminishes over time (it's still great though).

 

Reply #3 Top

You can use 1 maybe 2 spells every 45s for free. Am I missing something here?

Reply #4 Top

Yes isnt the other blade massively better? The dagger that gives you 75 percent of ALL dmg in mana?

Reply #5 Top

I personally really like Blade of the Serpent. 

Cooldown: 45 Seconds
Use: 100% chance on hit to gain 75% of your damage in Mana for 10 seconds.
+400 Mana
+25 Weapon Damage

So, every 45s you can pretty much refill your energy bar, especially if you are oozing in a group of enemies and/or using Post Mortem. 

Reply #6 Top

Blade of the Serpent owns Essence of Magic.  Sad but true.  The essence also only cares about when the mana would be taken, not when the spell is activated, meaning that 3 seconds isn't as long as it sounds.

Considering that amount of mana you get generate via an activation of the Blade (In many cases, 1000 or more) as well as the generally better passive damage boost... yeah, it is hard to rationalize buying the essence.

Reply #8 Top

Quoting Aroddo, reply 2

Quoting Shadow_Avenger, reply 1I haven't tried this, but in terms of inventory space, you're saying this is better than just getting a Vlemish helm, then Anklets or Blood of the Fallen for favor?
Yes, because this thing allows you a mana intensive playing style all the time without having to heavily invest in mana items.

EoM scales while the BotF bonus diminishes over time (it's still great though).

 
End of Aroddo's quote

 

 

Essence of Magic? DO NOT WANT

id rather get hol/mana helms or even blade of lolmana

Reply #9 Top

This guide needs a few tiny tweaks. Otherwise, it's a fantastic idea. I'm still testing, but it looks hella powerful.

Reply #10 Top

yeah, the benefit of that thing is hard to sell.

but bottom line is that you simply don't run out of mana most of the time. 45 seconds sound like much but it isn't, because unless you are constantly spamming spells a 45 second intervall is quite sufficient for a spit/ooze playstyle to greatly extend your staying power.

And what most people forget is that EoM enables you to use skills even when out of mana.

And it simply doesn't matter how much mana you need. EoM works brilliant at level 1 and it stays brilliant at level 20.

Reply #12 Top

See, blade of the serpent can be used asynchronously with the abilities you want to cast again, meaning you can, literally, use it every 45 seconds, just to get mana.  Essence requires you to have the mana need at the moment of casting.  I guess you could spit on a tower for free, to maximize the value... but how useful is that really?

Reply #13 Top

I don't have any experience with Blade of the  Serpent. But from the description it looks like you have to be in active combat to get your mana while you can activate EoM whenever you need.

I don't know what else to say when I state that you barely ever run out of mana when giving UB the EoM. I initially thought that advantage was awesome enough. I played UB with Spit, Foul Grasp and Ooze ... and later I even add Beastial wrath. And I don't feel a pressing need to buy a helmet, which is because the mana needs for UB usually come in bursts ... and these bursts are partially free with EoM.

Who knows, maybe the blade is even better in the long run. Playtest both and tell us about it. I just tell you what I observed: EoM works well with Spit-Ooze UB builds.

 

Reply #14 Top

why would you be using mana as UB out of combat?

Quoting Aroddo, reply 13
I don't have any experience with Blade of the  Serpent. But from the description it looks like you have to be in active combat to get your mana while you can activate EoM whenever you need.

I don't know what else to say when I state that you barely ever run out of mana when giving UB the EoM. I initially thought that advantage was awesome enough. I played UB with Spit, Foul Grasp and Ooze ... and later I even add Beastial wrath. And I don't feel a pressing need to buy a helmet, which is because the mana needs for UB usually come in bursts ... and these bursts are partially free with EoM.

Who knows, maybe the blade is even better in the long run. Playtest both and tell us about it. I just tell you what I observed: EoM works well with Spit-Ooze UB builds.

 
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Reply #15 Top

Quoting Foreshadowed, reply 14
why would you be using mana as UB out of combat?

 
End of Foreshadowed's quote

shortly prior to spitting on a tower? bestial wrath just right before entering combat?

Reply #16 Top

So, when you say

Quoting Aroddo, reply 13
I don't have any experience with Blade of the  Serpent. But from the description it looks like you have to be in active combat to get your mana while you can activate EoM whenever you need.
 
End of Aroddo's quote

... you tell us that you have never used the blade of the serpent. And yet you claim the essence as the 'best' favor item for the unclean beast. This is the kind of hyperbole that makes the internet a hard place to discuss things on.  How can you argue something is the best when you haven't tried out it's contemporaries?

Blade of the serpent gains mana from every source of damage available to Beast.  Walk into a group of 390 hit point minotaurs with the blade and ooze active, and those 5 minotuars will net you about 1500 mana in 10 seconds. Easily doable at level 4.  To get the same mana from essence of magic you'd either have to idle for more than two minutes (via mana per second) or use level 1 spit 3 times, or some combination of the above.

My point about not needing to be in 'combat' is that you do not need to be actively fighting other demigods, who would be good targets for spit, grasp, etc.  You can have, for instance, just killed one, and decide you want to fill up your mana pool by attacking a tower, or a wave of creeps. So the gaining of mana, and the using of it, do not have to happen at the same time, but rather whenever it is convenient.

Reply #17 Top

Quoting Zechnophobe, reply 16
So, when you say



Quoting Aroddo, reply 13I don't have any experience with Blade of the  Serpent. But from the description it looks like you have to be in active combat to get your mana while you can activate EoM whenever you need.
 
... you tell us that you have never used the blade of the serpent. And yet you claim the essence as the 'best' favor item for the unclean beast. This is the kind of hyperbole that makes the internet a hard place to discuss things on.  How can you argue something is the best when you haven't tried out it's contemporaries?

End of Zechnophobe's quote

Yeah yeah, wiseguy. You got me. I'm a hyperbole. And I make the internet in general a hard place to be and this forum especially. I shove my opinion in everyones arse until they scream they love it. I haven't tried every fucking item in the favor shop and yet I dare to demand you suck wisdom from my dick.

I am sorry. I have tarnished you with my opinion. I am unworthy. Please fuck me and make me pregnant!

 

Reply #18 Top

Quoting Aroddo, reply 17

Quoting Zechnophobe, reply 16So, when you say


Quoting Aroddo, reply 13I don't have any experience with Blade of the  Serpent. But from the description it looks like you have to be in active combat to get your mana while you can activate EoM whenever you need.
 
... you tell us that you have never used the blade of the serpent. And yet you claim the essence as the 'best' favor item for the unclean beast. This is the kind of hyperbole that makes the internet a hard place to discuss things on.  How can you argue something is the best when you haven't tried out it's contemporaries?


Yeah yeah, wiseguy. You got me. I'm a hyperbole. And I make the internet in general a hard place to be and this forum especially. I shove my opinion in everyones arse until they scream they love it. I haven't tried every fucking item in the favor shop and yet I dare to demand you suck wisdom from my dick.

I am sorry. I have tarnished you with my opinion. I am unworthy. Please fuck me and make me pregnant!

 
End of Aroddo's quote

 

fail troll is fail, if youre going to rant atleast do it better then the 13 year olds on xbox live...

Reply #19 Top

Quoting Foreshadowed, reply 18

Quoting Aroddo, reply 17
Quoting Zechnophobe, reply 16So, when you say


Quoting Aroddo, reply 13I don't have any experience with Blade of the  Serpent. But from the description it looks like you have to be in active combat to get your mana while you can activate EoM whenever you need.
 
... you tell us that you have never used the blade of the serpent. And yet you claim the essence as the 'best' favor item for the unclean beast. This is the kind of hyperbole that makes the internet a hard place to discuss things on.  How can you argue something is the best when you haven't tried out it's contemporaries?


Yeah yeah, wiseguy. You got me. I'm a hyperbole. And I make the internet in general a hard place to be and this forum especially. I shove my opinion in everyones arse until they scream they love it. I haven't tried every fucking item in the favor shop and yet I dare to demand you suck wisdom from my dick.

I am sorry. I have tarnished you with my opinion. I am unworthy. Please fuck me and make me pregnant!

 
 

fail troll is fail, if youre going to rant atleast do it better then the 13 year olds on xbox live...
End of Foreshadowed's quote

Seriously, when a troll is telling you you suck at trolling... jeez, that's bad.

Anyway, just look at the stats. Essence of magic gives you... the ability to cast one, maybe two spells for free. Unless you are playing while OoM, which is never a good idea, it doesn't have anything over blade of the serpant. Blade of the serpant gives you a ton more mana when you use it than you get from using a few skills, and you don't *have* to have the skill you want ready to use right then. Blade also has a better out of combat buff with it's increased DPS.

Also, oddly enoough, blade of the serpant procs on UB oozing himself. Kind of neat.

Finally: There is no way anything related to mana could be the best for UB when one of his major three builds is pure Ooze.

Reply #20 Top

I don't really think EoM is all that great for saving mana on an occasional spit and OMG SOMETIMES A GRASP+SPIT!!!

 

However, an erebus free bat_swarm+bite+sleep might be worth considering...

Reply #21 Top

Quoting Sly_Squash, reply 20
I don't really think EoM is all that great for saving mana on an occasional spit and OMG SOMETIMES A GRASP+SPIT!!!

 

However, an erebus free bat_swarm+bite+sleep might be worth considering...
End of Sly_Squash's quote

 

 

Too bad it's assasin only

Reply #22 Top

pure ice torch uses a lot of mana AND has high cooldown, i think i'm gonna give EoM a try with him.

but for an ooze-hybrid it's totally worthless compared to other favor items...

 

i fully agree with zechnophobes last post

Reply #23 Top

Quoting MABManZ, reply 21


Too bad it's assasin only
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Bummer, overlooked that. :'(

 

IT WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD TIMES YO!!!!!! :rofl: