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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

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This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #751 from Demigod Forums Top

If I remember right, its a decent shield oak.
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Lol he gets shield III at level 12. His minion build RAPES FACE though.

Reply #752 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Splitshadow, reply 751

If I remember right, its a decent shield oak.
Lol he gets shield III at level 12. His minion build RAPES FACE though.
End of Splitshadow's quote

I have 4 Oak builds:

- Ring of Divine Might minion <- Shield III @ 12

- BotF Hybrid (which I'm still working on, it's uber weak until level 10 ._.) <- Shield III @ 12

- BotF/CoN Assassin (normal cookie cutter build, same as RAWRs) <- Shield III @ 7

- BotF Anti-Minion Assassin (weak Pent, more points in DJ, get Nature's Reckoning) <- Shield III @ 7

Star Control: Origins
Reply #753 from Demigod Forums Top

Ring of Divine Might minion <- Shield III @ 12

- BotF Hybrid (which I'm still working on, it's uber weak until level 10 ._.) <- Shield III @ 12
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someone's not a team player (get shield @ 7 while playing w pacov)

Reply #754 from Demigod Forums Top

the top two are mana-side only or 2v2 only builds, don't need shield

Reply #755 from Demigod Forums Top

the top two are mana-side only or 2v2 only builds, don't need shield
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strange, when I claim that about my minion mana oak someone says I'm not a team player 'looks at hedgie'

Reply #756 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Maccilia, reply 755

the top two are mana-side only or 2v2 only builds, don't need shield
strange, when I claim that about my minion mana oak someone says I'm not a team player 'looks at hedgie'
End of Maccilia's quote

Of course. I have a magical aura when I play that makes me never have to port to the HP side to save someone's ass ;)

But more seriously, both those builds I only do with people who I know, etc etc. I let them know I'm not being a team player. It's the reverse logic for you where you only get Charm in voice games.

Reply #757 from Demigod Forums Top

Of course. I have a magical aura when I play that makes me never have to port to the HP side to save someone's ass
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No wonder you're such an awesome Sedna !!! :O

It's the reverse logic for you where you only get Charm in voice games
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actually after getting cussed out a few times i changed my build :P

 

Reply #758 from Demigod Forums Top

pacov btw i got my name changed and zen_god took my old name so can you just add my new name up there?

would also like to nominate gL-R3D3MTION wich is KALELsmx.. for tier 1

And jongalt deserves to be up there..

Reply #759 from Demigod Forums Top

Pregnantdude & Gedregin

Same person playing on different teams.  He keeps running into the enemies citadel to feed.

Foul language, exploiter. and childlike play.

Reply #760 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting ba294, reply 759
Pregnantdude & Gedregin

Same person playing on different teams.  He keeps running into the enemies citadel to feed.

Foul language, exploiter. and childlike play.
End of ba294's quote

This is pretty rediculous...... definetly deserves to be added to the avoided list.

Reply #761 from Demigod Forums Top

And jongalt deserves to be up there..
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Jon should already have been in tier 2 as he easily fits in there.  Adding him now.

edit - sorry i missed you there jon.  Definitely an oversight on my part.

Reply #762 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting ba294, reply 759
Pregnantdude & Gedregin

Same person playing on different teams.  He keeps running into the enemies citadel to feed.

Foul language, exploiter. and childlike play.
End of ba294's quote

That behavior sounds pretty rediculous... do you have any proof?  demigod.log and or a replay.

Reply #763 from Demigod Forums Top

pacov btw i got my name changed and zen_god took my old name so can you just add my new name up there?

WTF??? I guess no one wanted to play with zen_god because he is known for ragequiting so u just giving his name. Now thats a biggest bullshit i have ever read.

Every time i open this game i pray for IP based ban list, because this name changing and account smurfing is really annoying. You just cant predict what kind of as...ole u get on your team.

Reply #764 from Demigod Forums Top

I just think to myself how much better my life must be because I don't have to exploit in a video game to make myself happy.

Reply #765 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting irek1988, reply 763
pacov btw i got my name changed and zen_god took my old name so can you just add my new name up there?

WTF??? I guess no one wanted to play with zen_god because he is known for ragequiting so u just giving his name. Now thats a biggest bullshit i have ever read.

Every time i open this game i pray for IP based ban list, because this name changing and account smurfing is really annoying. You just cant predict what kind of as...ole u get on your team.
End of irek1988's quote


cry a river... or go rage on the hall of shame.. ur wasting your time. and since when do ppl get banned for ragequiting?

Reply #766 from Demigod Forums Top

^I don't think Zen_God does anymore anyway.

By the way Pacov, Orcun should also have the GM tag. Thanks for updating our names though!!

Reply #767 from Demigod Forums Top

you missread

Every user should have working ban list to avoid playin with people such as zen_god. Notes just dont cut it since you can create countless accounts. The only valid option is to create IP based ban list.

Halll of shame is full of posts about this guy. Go on and read it

 

Reply #768 from Demigod Forums Top

Ok - analysis time.  Here is the current ladder - pick it apart... who is a joke that is highly ranked and who belongs there:

My first thought is who is highly ranked, but has ALOT of panth only games and/or 1v1s...

1 py4eek 4,906 187,205 400 76 34,868 minutes
2 Prussian-Havoc 3,866 248,670 252 48 51,955 minutes
3 -Heros-Temp 3,751 92,445 292 81 24,565 minutes
4 theoakman 3,057 65,515 218 41 15,102 minutes
5 GM-NinkiCZ 3,035 91,565 194 65 23,693 minutes
6 Nilanthi 2,955 194,460 445 191 47,894 minutes
7 ananais 2,954 89,035 147 37 23,547 minutes
8 King_of_Thorns 2,704 84,725 129 31 22,767 minutes
9 morpheas768 2,655 201,870 182 72 52,343 minutes
10 lighto 2,616 33,935 158 35 10,165 minutes
11 HorseStrangler 2,568 187,415 141 37 36,982 minutes
12 zenjiro 2,534 41,715 88 15 9,851 minutes
13 gL-TrinitySanctum 2,527 47,665 175 90 13,572 minutes
14 GM-Mithrandar 2,511 73,110 207 101 21,227 minutes
15 batpat10 2,459 60,590 150 46 18,787 minutes
16 valerin 2,445 115,630 218 121 23,248 minutes
17 xclavex 2,420 66,285 165 41 12,149 minutes
18 Silverdust 2,398 110,625 159 74 31,372 minutes
19 5J-FOX 2,396 21,565 72 15 3,832 minutes
20 Curt-OP1 2,357 70,605 194 79 19,894 minutes
Reply #769 from Demigod Forums Top

pyeek is pretty funny and he's not THAT bad. He just fails at teamplaying.

Ninki, morhpeas and Horse are good. And I remeber Mith and Curt as well. 

Reply #770 from Demigod Forums Top

pyeek is pretty funny and he's not THAT bad. He just fails at teamplaying.
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I thought pyeek was questionable at best due to exploiting, etc... that's not the case?  I think he's been accused at the very least.

Reply #771 from Demigod Forums Top

The first four shouldn't be there. Py4eek and Prussian exploit and oakman/herotemp only play stacked games. The rest of the player I either don't know or they belong there like Horsestrangler for example.

Reply #772 from Demigod Forums Top

I thought pyeek was questionable at best due to exploiting, etc... that's not the case?
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It is, but he doesn't exploit every game and is a good player.

Reply #773 from Demigod Forums Top

You think it's OK to exploit SOME games?

Reply #774 from Demigod Forums Top

You think it's OK to exploit SOME games?
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I don't.  So, he's a good player, but gets pissy and exploits from time to time.  That's enough to keep him off this list then

Reply #775 from Demigod Forums Top

Exactly my point. The way I see this isn't only a list of people who are good or really good. I see it as a list of people who you can 100% count on not to go idling, exploiting, feeding or generally going full retard in a game.