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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #776 Top

You think it's OK to exploit SOME games?
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No, but ppl keep portraying him like belier or apika and he's not, I'm not saying he shouldn't be on the list but he shouldn't be on the aviod at all  cost list either

Reply #777 Top

No, but ppl keep portraying him like belier or apika and he's not, I'm not saying he shouldn't be on the list but he shouldn't be on the aviod at all cost list either
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I agree with that as well.

Reply #778 Top

I thought pyeek was questionable at best due to exploiting, etc... that's not the case? I think he's been accused at the very least.
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actually he seems to exploit more than is seen to naked eye, at 1v1 games he hosts, many desyncs simply dont show up in stats.  Think you should him to avoid list for his 1v1s, maybe not games he joins.  He was pretty obvious when i played him

Reply #779 Top

You should never play 1v1 games, they're always either cheaters or good players looking to noob stomp :)  

Reply #780 Top

Hi everybody!

Excuse my english which is not perfect, but Demigod is a team's game. You can see by this link that 3 good pickup can win against a team which is composed of 2 of the 20 first players of your list(in a hard game of 71 minutes)

=> CurtOP1 rank 20 + GM-Mithrandar rank 14 + GM-magnus333 rank 69 VS Mooks67 rank 108 + AtMa44x rank 168 + Ferman77 rank 134

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1253850/player/32008/

These 3 ones are good players, it's a fact... but stats says nothing. To conclude, just have fun, it's not a tournament.

Reply #781 Top

^Mooks, I love your posts. I know you don't speak much English but your posts are always so diplomatic. Very gentlemen-like :grin:

Reply #782 Top

Very gentlemen-like
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haha... you stop that right now.

Reply #783 Top

Oh - welcome to tier 2, mooks - added you

Reply #784 Top

AtMa44x - this guy is the most erratic player ever. I played like 6 games with this guy, sometimes he just fed nonstop and other times he was absolutely great..

Reply #785 Top

Yes i'm a gentleman... we can do war in game ( by our Demigod, not with our words), but we can't in real life ;-)

Reply #786 Top

Quoting Splitshadow, reply 784
AtMa44x - this guy is the most erratic player ever. I played like 6 games with this guy, sometimes he just fed nonstop and other times he was absolutely great..
End of Splitshadow's quote

 

I agree. I played a game with him and OmicronyLyrae. He bought totems, then went up and circle-of fire'd both creep waves, repeatedly. He died twice, while Omicron and myself were saying "wtf is he doing!?!?". After the second death, he said the phrase that I've heard all too many times before - "Okay, I'm going to play seriously now".

And then after that we just stomped. He stopped dying and we took down all of their towers, got a few kills, and then their citadel fell.

 

It was the strangest thing.

Reply #787 Top

I played with an oak player named Timsworth who would just fight until he died in his lane like seven times, and after he died, he always said it was intentional. Surprisingly, my team still won XD

Reply #788 Top

Quoting Mooks67, reply 780
Hi everybody!

Excuse my english which is not perfect, but Demigod is a team's game. You can see by this link that 3 good pickup can win against a team which is composed of 2 of the 20 first players of your list(in a hard game of 71 minutes)

=> CurtOP1 rank 20 + GM-Mithrandar rank 14 + GM-magnus333 rank 69 VS Mooks67 rank 108 + AtMa44x rank 168 + Ferman77 rank 134

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1253850/player/32008/

These 3 ones are good players, it's a fact... but stats says nothing. To conclude, just have fun, it's not a tournament.
End of Mooks67's quote

The only stat that was relevant was that there was a regulas in that game. ;(((((((((((((((

Do you have the replay?

Reply #789 Top

blarg - yes, a replay would have been nice, but could Mr. Mooks67 have played against a more experienced regulus player magnus? :P

I played with and against mooks quite a few times in epoch 2 ^^

Reply #790 Top

Quoting gm-magnus333, reply 788


These 3 ones are good players, it's a fact... but stats says nothing. To conclude, just have fun, it's not a tournament.
The only stat that was relevant was that there was a regulas in that game. ;(((((((((((((((

Do you have the replay?
End of gm-magnus333's quote

No sorry magnus, I haven't. Effectively you had a reg in your team, but we had a TB... it's approximately the same : 2 low armor DG, but 2 strong DPS DG... and it's with your reg that you had more kills than ours with the snipe.

It's not because you have lost this time that you are bad players. You will maybe win the next match.

Reply #791 Top

So...is this entire list of players just those that play the unofficial vent servers? I haven't played many on that list...cept tuki and I play a mix of Panth and Custom matches.

Reply #792 Top

So...is this entire list of players just those that play the unofficial vent servers? I haven't played many on that list...cept tuki and I play a mix of Panth and Custom matches.
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Well... its still my list... which means I have the final decision on who hits tier 1... and that means that the only people to hit tier 1 will be people that either I have been personally impressed by or whom others I consider highly skilled have nominated themselves.  And even then, I probably ask for replays. 

In the case of mooks67, I initially dismissed him when he made a post some time ago as no one that's been following the thread vouched for him.  When he recently chimed back in and provided some additional info on a recent win, that convinced me to add him to tier 2. 

If you have any nominations, I'm all ears.

Reply #793 Top

No, I mean, is this just Vent players? I have never even see most of the players on your list in the official matches.

Reply #794 Top

No, I mean, is this just Vent players? I have never even see most of the players on your list in the official matches.
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oh - no, vent is not required to be on the list.  The majority of the tier 2 guys aren't on the lagwars vent.  Everyone in tier 1 except cowbutt does use lagwars at this time, though.  You are certainly welcome to jump in and get some games going on lagwars if you like, of course.

Reply #795 Top

I would like to nominate DG-Thundershock. I've played a game with him. He has a solid record, and he's a decent player. Definitely a candidate for Tier 2.

Reply #796 Top

Quoting Mooks67, reply 790


No sorry magnus, I haven't. Effectively you had a reg in your team, but we had a TB... it's approximately the same : 2 low armor DG, but 2 strong DPS DG... and it's with your reg that you had more kills than ours with the snipe.

It's not because you have lost this time that you are bad players. You will maybe win the next match.
End of Mooks67's quote

I wanted a good game as reg solely for the replay (which I forgot to save...) and I got it.  I'm not arguing that but tb>>>reg any day of the week because tb has 2 interupts while reg has 0.

Reply #797 Top

Quoting Mooks67, reply 780
Hi everybody!

Excuse my english which is not perfect, but Demigod is a team's game. You can see by this link that 3 good pickup can win against a team which is composed of 2 of the 20 first players of your list(in a hard game of 71 minutes)

=> CurtOP1 rank 20 + GM-Mithrandar rank 14 + GM-magnus333 rank 69 VS Mooks67 rank 108 + AtMa44x rank 168 + Ferman77 rank 134

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1253850/player/32008/

These 3 ones are good players, it's a fact... but stats says nothing. To conclude, just have fun, it's not a tournament.
End of Mooks67's quote

I had my revenge with morpheas yesterday muhahaha  }:)

Reply #798 Top

Quoting pacov, reply 794

No, I mean, is this just Vent players? I have never even see most of the players on your list in the official matches.


oh - no, vent is not required to be on the list.  The majority of the tier 2 guys aren't on the lagwars vent.  Everyone in tier 1 except cowbutt does use lagwars at this time, though.  You are certainly welcome to jump in and get some games going on lagwars if you like, of course.
End of pacov's quote

Oh man the only one who doesn't use vent out of tier 1, I feel warm and fuzzy inside.

On that note I would like to nominate IamKira for tier 1 because kira's TB and UB are disgusting and I need a ventless buddy up there!

Reply #799 Top

Kira's beast is only tier 2 last time I checked. She might have improved, though.

Reply #800 Top

Quoting Cowbuttzex, reply 798

Oh man the only one who doesn't use vent out of tier 1, I feel warm and fuzzy inside.
End of Cowbuttzex's quote

People in GM only started using vent after the clan was established, which was before they were listed as Tier 1.

If you sneak into our vent channel while we're in game, we're silent most of the time. We've played so often with each other we don't need to tell each other what to do, it's pretty much become instinctual. Also, we usually have both teams in the same channel, so neither team has an advantage.

Vent is great for talking about all things other than demigod. The other day we all witnessed a love story.