get a hummer yrag, they are awesome. good enough for our fighting forces.

I know I am losing. No harm in loving American made products though.

yrag, Dodge is owned by DiamerChrysler.

So its American and its German! The best of both worlds!!!


So you can drive a Dodge and think its a Mercedes and you would be right!

OMG!!! I totally forgot about my other dream car that I could get maybe who knows when.

The BMW 745i
I heard some horror stories about it though and I also heard that maintaining the car cost just as much as buying it. I still like it.

U.S.A. makes some awesome cars that will compete with foreign cars

Prowler
Viper
Mustang (The new one is in the same class as the Ferrari)
Corvette
and of course the Cadillac (take your pick)

I'd just get an old Blower Bentley

Bad choice Paul! B-A-D choice.
"W.O." never wanted anything to do with them, Tim Birkin (using Dorothy Paget's money!) and Amherst Villiers were behind the 'blowers'.
A decent 6 litre will beat a blower around the ears and do it with less fuss!
My mate with the 1924 3 litre has had an entertaining time with it, in the first year of ownership everything but the battery box broke!
That fell apart in the first week of year two!
The crankshaft snapped(!) on a BOC Rally on a wet Saturday .... replacing it cost as much as a small Audi!
At least the CW&P held out for several months after the new crank was inserted!
That one was expensive .....

......and it may not compete, but I love my CAMARO
Those so-called-badass fast and the furious cars would need nitrous to compete with my Camaro.
Without nitrous, is like Turtles to Rabbits
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ProwlerViperMustang (The new one is in the same class as the Ferrari)Corvetteand of course the Cadillac (take your pick)

A Prowler??? What would it compete with? A Trabant?????
The Viper has performed really well in European and American endurance races .... but only when the French Oreca team ran it!
Lancer Evo7s and WRX Scoobies were beating the local Vipers out here!
Mustang and Ferrari .... ... so the Mustang leaks oil like the Exxon Valdiz and is as ugly as a hat full as well!!
We need a smiley for "I'm busting a gut laughing"!
How about that Corvette? The 'All American' sports car .... with the British designed engine!
Styled by the same group that pick Stevie Wonder's wardrobe.
Any Cadillac? Take your pick?
A front end loader would be better, a pick and shovel would be too much work!
Wombat cracks up completely and rolls around like a furball ..... I needed a good laugh but this is too much!



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#52 by PowerUser joetheblow - 12/26/2003 7:21:18 PM yrag, Dodge is owned by DiamerChrysler.So its American and its German! The best of both worlds!!!

...yes I'm aware of that. I envy you if your imagination allows you to get behind the wheel of a Dodge and think you're in a Benz...

So its American and its German! The best of both worlds!!!

Or the worst!

American muscle is the way to go for speed. An owner doesn’t have to worry about taking out the interior of the car or weight reduction unless they are into extremely serious drag racing where the time it takes to blink an eye defines a win or a loss. Parts are cheaper to build on top of what power is already in large American engines. Unlike imports, muscle cars can have stock gears and run low times on the drag strip and have high top end speeds. Imports have to go one way or the other because or the way gearing and torque is set up. A popular thing to do to imports is to put nitrous oxide on them. This is a relatively cheap bolt on that can add 150 horsepower to a car. Small import engines are great to run nitrous on, and turn into quick running engines when nitrous is added. The only catch is that domestic cars can run nitrous too, thus beating the import once again. The story is pretty much the same for new high performance cars. A Lamborghini Diablo is a $250,000 car that must be imported and has to be taken to a shop with a special mechanic. Such shops are rare. Meanwhile a Dodge Viper costs a much lower $80,000. It is slightly faster than the Diablo when both cars are stock. For the price difference, a Viper can be modified to do anything better than the Lambo. A Lambo has few modifications left to be done though. The factory pushes this car to its limits from the factory, which makes it unreliable on top of all else. Once again the American car wins as a performance car over the import.

Imports are the new “fad”. Kids usually don’t want to buy old cars; they want the newest thing out. They don’t realize that if they are looking for performance, American cars are the way to go. Too much money is wasted just trying to get an import to run even with a small American V8. Nitrous, turbochargers, superchargers and blowers are all ways to add much more horsepower to engines. The catch is that these modifications can be done just as easily to already strong running American cars as they can to imports. Some think imported cars are fast because they are so small and lightweight, this just isn’t the case because of the torque problems discussed earlier. Big blocks and power deal with weight issues with ease. New technology is another excuse people use for racing imports rather than domestics. It obviously makes sense that new cars have better technology than cars designed forty and fifty years ago had. The new technology is usually focused on making cars more reliable and economical though, not more high performance. Nothing beats raw power when it comes to speed. Another notable difference in exotic imports and domestic sports cars is that foreign cars are built for high speeds. American cars are made for acceleration speeds and therefore top end is usually sacrificed. That is the American way, hard accelerations off the line that can shatter the weak parts used to build imports.

If your only interest is going in a straight line, I would basically agree with you. If I were going in that direction, I'd still choose an old hemi or LS6 chevelle over any of the newer stuff, including the Viper.

However, the mark of a *true* sports car is the whole package; handling, braking, power, etc. There isn't a current American car that can do all of that as well as the better imports (although the 'vette is remarkably close), and the imports are often less costly, as well.

As I mentioned before, for what you're paying for them, the Corvette and the Viper just don't measure up, they can be outdone overall for half the cost.

There isn't a current American car that can do all of that as well as the better imports

The Saleen LM is pretty good and the Mosler certainly has the complete package including straight line 'handling'.

wombat,

I stand corrected

But those aren't really general production cars, and as such, are in a different class. I'd also place the Callaway Corvette in that class, as well.

If you want to 'go' in a straight line...take a train....follow the rails.

I outran a DB6 Aston Martin in my old Spitty simply because it was more nimble and actually made it round corners while the Aston was fretting spokes from its wheels...300 horses versus 80.....horses for courses...

After the 427 Cobra [for simple, sexy convertible good-looks] would be the Good old Aston Martin DBS V8......still looks the part, thirty years later....big, impressive, and goes like the 'proverbial'...

#16 by Kona0197 - 12/26/2003 3:19:52 PM what part of forign cars suck do you not understand?

I'm South African, so American cars are foreign to me, and yes Kona, you're so right.

I only ever had two American cars, a Ford XR3i and a Pontiac GrandAM. Both were mistakes that I will never repeat again!

Right now I drive a Hyundai Elantra. Great little car. Takes a lot of abuse. I'm thinking about trading it for a BMW though.... Preferably a 333i if I can find one.

Now here is a beauty

AMERICAN BEAUTY

I have always had a fascination with the BMW M5

... I thought this was a thread of people's favorite cars or dream ones... not "What car is the fastest" or "Import or domestic"..tsk...

They don’t realize that if they are looking for performance, American cars are the way to go.

I would have to agree. I see alot of 50, 60, and 70's american xars on the road because they are so cheap to fix and because they are reliable.

I don't see many forign old cars on the raod. hmmmm....

BTW if I remember there is a dodge viper that packs 700 horsepower and out does the Calloway corvette.

Can't remember what they called it.

A Lamborghini Diablo is a $250,000 car that must be imported and has to be taken to a shop with a special mechanic. Such shops are rare. Meanwhile a Dodge Viper costs a much lower $80,000. It is slightly faster than the Diablo when both cars are stock. For the price difference, a Viper can be modified to do anything better than the Lambo. A Lambo has few modifications left to be done though. The factory pushes this car to its limits from the factory, which makes it unreliable on top of all else. Once again the American car wins as a performance car over the import.

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The Prowler isn't bad either

well the only real cars are made by Dodge. Anything else is a waste of money and

Er..... I rather think not.....what a ridiculous thing to say.....*sigh*.

Boxxi your right I should have said:

The only good well made real cars are made by Ford, GM, and Dodge. Anything else IS a waste of material and the designers talent.