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Altarian Prophecy Beta 2 Bug Reports

Altarian Prophecy Beta 2 Bug Reports

Please assume that I will want save games, debug.err files, and smart exception reports as applicable for reported bugs.  Save games in Altarian prophecy are only one file, no folders.

My e-mail is [email protected]

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Reply #51 Top
Cari - the slowdown happens randomly during a ship battle. Yes I have all the latest drivers/updates etc.

The problem I mentioned with the trade embargo

READ CAREFULLY:

I had a trade embargo against the Altarians. I then went and formed an alliance many years later. Some years later I realized I'd forgotten to LIFT the trade embargo before forming the alliance. SO the only way I could break the trade embargo, was to dissolve the allaince first since that button was in the way.

So maybe when you form an alliance any trade embargos should be automatically removed first.

* OS: Win XP Home SP1
* Directx 9.0B
* Processor: AMD 64 3200+
* Motherboard: Asus K8V Deluxe
* Bios Rev: Version 1004
* Memory: Kingston
* Video Card: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Cat 3.10
* Sound Card: SB Audigy 2 (latest non-beta drivers)
* Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 Surround System
* Sound settings utilizing 5.1 speakers and EAX 3
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* Pioneer DVD Drive

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Reply #52 Top
Also, the victory conditions DO NOT WORK.

And saving a game is unusually problematic (dating from the orginal GalCiv).

Sometimes when you type in name hit enter it doesn't save. I can't tell you the number of times I'd thought I'd saved but did not. Please change the way this is done so you click a button and pop-up box presents you with the option to "name", and then hitting "enter" or "OK" saves the file. Thank you! :)


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Reply #53 Top
HercMighty, do you have a prefs.ini file in the data directory for Altarian Prophecy? If yes, does it have the settings that it's not remembering? I'm not sure how the colony ship ended up in orbit. It's supposed to make you chose a planet to deposit the colonists on and then destroy the colony ship.

I will check for the file. The colony ship I had to launch and then disband to get rid of it. When it was in orbit it would not let me disband it.

Brad is going to fix the minor races so that they don't purchase trade goods, and make other changes to make them more fair.

Was this directed to me? The trading techs that I had a problem was with a major race. When I accepted the trade they wanted to do, I would not get the tech they offered me.
Reply #54 Top
Cari i have sent the exception report to you.
Reply #55 Top

Jeffrey Pinard:

Yeah, it really should lift embargos when you ally with the other race. I've added that to my list.

What media player programs do you have installed other than Windows Media Player?  WinDVD is known to have a buggy sound codec that can sometimes interefere with the mp3 player in Gal civ.

I found what was re-setting the victory conditions if you didn't have a scenario.

The next time you have that problem with it saving, can you check to see if it saved a file under New Save Game?  I've had that happen to me before, but I've never had it not create a save game at all.

HercMighty,

I'm not seeing the post where you reported the problem trading techs.  Was that in another thread?

Reply #56 Top
I rename my saves all the time you click on the "new save name space" then type what you want and hit enter that names the save then you click save then it saves the game

~SDC~
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CariElf: My trading techs problem was originally posted in post #4 of this thread:

When a race would contact me to trade techs and I accepted the tech does not show in my list of researched techs.

I would like to clarify that it happened twice, the same major race both times, and both times it was a one to one trade that they proposed to me. When I accepted the tech did not show in my list of researched techs. One thing that maybe a cause was at least one of them I did not have the required prior techs. Can a race trade you for a tech you do not have the prior techs?
Reply #58 Top
os2wiz: did you hit esc from within the game or had you just started the game?
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Carielf, the problem was due to an install corruption. I had installed the new code over the older beta. Once I
deleted the whole program from from my drive and did a complete reinstall of the new beta, the problem disappeared.
The threading between turns is awfully slow. Is that due to inclusion of debugging code?????

~SDC~
Reply #59 Top

Yes, you can trade for techs that you don't have the requirements completed.

os2wiz, um, I don't think that I added any debug code to the between turn stuff. It could be because there's suddenly two more races, but that doesn't seem too likely.  If you disable two of the races, does the performance improve?

Reply #60 Top
Hi,

The Paladin ship is never completed. When selecting in the build options there is no picture displayed. After the count reaches 'Next Month' the next turn it still says 'Next Month'

Cheers,
Dominic
Reply #61 Top
Hello,

Why aren't Starbases tradable items? In the game I'm playing they have a very high economic value as the cost of building a starbase increases with each one you build. My next starbase is 6000 credits. I wanted to give a race a chance at peace...if only they would give me their starbase, convieniently located on a resource :-), however the starbases were not listed as a tradable item.

Thanks,
Dominic
Reply #62 Top
One more :-) its a little one...when it tells you something is x% complete its says x%% (you get two percent signs)

Cheers,
Dominic
Reply #63 Top
Maybe to keep people from avoiding the cost of building one when you have lots by buying one prebuilt? I think that resource starbases at least are something that the AI shouldn't give up. Human players are just too good at taking advantage of them. For the AI to give the human an influence resource when they ask for one is suicide, regardless of what they get in return.

~SDC~
Reply #64 Top
:-( I currently control 96% of the galaxy for a Cultural victory (gigantic map). I have done for almost 2yrs and yet the 12mth counter hasn't started yet.

I just completed Beyond Human research in the same game and for winning conditions I have 102%. Go figure.

I'm beginning to wonder what the winning conditions actually are...How do I find this out now?
Reply #65 Top
The cultural-victory-o-meter in the options menu doesn't show you how much influence you have, it shows you how close you are to the victory condition. You control 96% of 90% of the galaxy. Count the blue sectors. (Drop some colonists on a low quality planet in the middle of your rival's empire to turn some of those squares blue.)

I don't know what's up with the tech-victory-o-meter, but it's always been like that as far as I know. You've got one more tech to go--Final Frontier. (Go for the cultural win, though. Tech victories score really low.)

~SDC~
Reply #66 Top
Cari, I have Nero and the Intervideo X-Pack for WMP.

Also, is there a way to win with the current build of the game?
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Reply #68 Top
#61 by Diplomat Dominic Breeze - 1/26/2004 8:39:24 PM
Hello,Why aren't Starbases tradable items? In the game I'm playing they have a very high economic value as the cost of building a starbase increases with each one you build. My next starbase is 6000 credits. I wanted to give a race a chance at peace...if only they would give me their starbase, convieniently located on a resource , however the starbases were not listed as a tradable item.Thanks,Dominic
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I thought starbases were tradeable :notsure: . It seems to me I can see them in the AI ships list. But you need to be friendly or close i think to get to see that information. (or maybe it is espionnage related perhaps?). Although I can see them, I've never been able to buy one from an AI.

Also, is there a way to win with the current build of the game?
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Yes you can win, but only with military vic. Maybe if you play a costum scenario you can have the other vic conditions. (in a "standard" game, I only had military vic.)

The Paladin ship is never completed. When selecting in the build options there is no picture displayed. After the count reaches 'Next Month' the next turn it still says 'Next Month'
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Same here :notsure:
Reply #69 Top
Carielf, when I loaded thre game early this morning the buttom reappear so must be that I had to restart the computer after downloading the beta. Thanks for your help. ;)
Reply #70 Top
Should we be able to publish to the Metaverse?

I completed my game last night, sadly via tech win, and when I posted my score a dialog popped up saying something like, 'as the metaverse is currently in beta posting is disabled' or words to that effect.

Any clues?
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#70 by Diplomat Dominic Breeze - 1/27/2004 11:23:04 AM Should we be able to publish to the Metaverse?I completed my game last night, sadly via tech win, and when I posted my score a dialog popped up saying something like, 'as the metaverse is currently in beta posting is disabled' or words to that effect.Any clues?
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Were you playing a scenario Dominic? I thought all victory conditions but military were off. (I'm pretty certain alliance is off anyway.). I posted yesterday a regular game, military vic, and it showed right away.
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Reply #72 Top

Jeffrey Pinard,

Nero should be fine, and I haven't heard of any issues with Intervideo.  Will the slowdown predictably happen before a ship battle? So like if you turned off all sound and music right before a ship battle, you would be able to tell if there was a difference?

Starbases should be in the trade lists...I didn't do anything to take them out. 

You can't submit scenario wins yet, because I don't think that the metaverse stuff is in yet.  But with scenarios you can set the winning conditions, and you can save your save games for when we get the metaverse stuff in.  I'm fairly sure that I won't have to wreck the save game format between now and then.  Bugs aside, the new code is a lot more flexible.

Reply #73 Top
Not sure if this is a bug but in the game I tried minor races would not give me cash for technology.

Try to sell them 10 technologies, and they have maybe 50000 BC and they would not give even 100BC for 0 months.
Reply #74 Top

Dominic, so the starbases just weren't in the trade lists, or they wouldn't trade them to you?

Technician, do you know what techs they were, and what relations you had with the minor race, etc?

Reply #75 Top
Neutral but I can not remember which techs I try to give them.