Being Pro-life does not make you a prude.

You can have it both ways

from JoeUser Forums
I am Pro-life, even though I think abortion is an abomination, I support A woman's right to choose.

Somehow the message has gotten out that you must abstain from sex {conservative values} I disagree with this.

I think if you are going to have unprotected sex or even so called protected sex and are not married you should be able to deal with the consequences {birth}.

If you are old enough to make adult decisions {having sex} you should be adult enough to have the child, not kill it because it might be inconvenient to have the baby.

In this world of instant gratification, it has become to easy to sex it up with no thought to the problems this might entail.

The decay of America started with roe vrs wade, sure kid have sex all you want then if you get pregnant you can just commit murder to get rid of the problem{abortion} there by compounding your mistakes and accepting no responsibility at all.

This liberal attitude towards something a sacred as sexual relations is directly responsible for the moral decay of America and traditional values.

So if you are going to go out there and have indiscriminate sex with multiple partners be adult enough to accept responsibility and have the child instead of killing it for your mistake.

Also be prepared to contract some kind of sexually transmitted disease {aids Hep b and c} and a multitude of others.

Do not expect me to spend my money to help support you either, I do not want to have to pay for your mistakes.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
texas two step into the forums.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
While I will not paint all pro-abortion people with this broad brush, I will say the pro abortion leadership has gone from advocating a woman's right to choose, to pushing abortion for abortion's sake.  They no longer even attempt to advocate responsibility on the part of the participants.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
2 by Dr. Guy
Thursday, October 06, 2005


While I will not paint all pro-abortion people with this broad brush, I will say the pro abortion leadership has gone from advocating a woman's right to choose, to pushing abortion for abortion's sake. They no longer even attempt to advocate responsibility on the part of the participants.


as soon as a dyed in the wool liberal tells me they support abortion, but think people should accept responsibility for their decisions I will stop using a broad brush, untill then I will paint away.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I, too, support a woman's right to choose.

Just as I support a woman's right to life.

I just, you know, don't support anybody's right to choose death for other people.

And I think that deciding whether or not a fetus is a person is too momentous and far-reaching thing for a single individual to decide. It's a decision that will shape our whole society for generations to come. To the extent that we can, I think we all have a responsibility to participate in making that decision. And I'm not at all surprised that the debate is turning out to be long and ugly.

In the end, though, I just don't think it's for individual people to decide, on a case by case basis, what counts as a human being.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
4 by stutefish
Thursday, October 06, 2005


, too, support a woman's right to choose.

Just as I support a woman's right to life.

I just, you know, don't support anybody's right to choose death for other people.

And I think that deciding whether or not a fetus is a person is too momentous and far-reaching thing for a single individual to decide. It's a decision that will shape our whole society for generations to come. To the extent that we can, I think we all have a responsibility to participate in making that decision. And I'm not at all surprised that the debate is turning out to be long and ugly.

In the end, though, I just don't think it's for individual people to decide, on a case by case basis, what counts as a human being.


well thought out response, insightfull I might add { I do not give many of these out btw}
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm of mixed opinion. I support a woman's right to choose because I'm not going to tell anyone else what they can and cannot do with their lives. However, I also think that once a chick is pregnant it's not just 'her' body anymore, it's being shared by someone else - and that someone has rights the same as everyone else.

I don't agree with abortion as a form of birth control. I think that if you choose to have sex then you also choose to accept the consequences of having sex...whether it be a STD or pregnancy.

We've become a society that always looks to someone else to blame when things happen. We've somehow managed to make personal responsibility and accountability a thing of the past, and I detest that. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions - and if that means having a baby, then so be it. Adoption is ALWAYS an option. If my mother had believed in abortion, I wouldn't be here today....
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: dharmagrlPosted: Thursday, October 06, 2005I'm of mixed opinion. I support a woman's right to choose because I'm not going to tell anyone else what they can and cannot do with their lives. However, I also think that once a chick is pregnant it's not just 'her' body anymore, it's being shared by someone else - and that someone has rights the same as everyone else.I don't agree with abortion as a form of birth control. I think that if you choose to have sex then you also choose to accept the consequences of having sex...whether it be a STD or pregnancy.We've become a society that always looks to someone else to blame when things happen. We've somehow managed to make personal responsibility and accountability a thing of the past, and I detest that. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions - and if that means having a baby, then so be it. Adoption is ALWAYS an option. If my mother had believed in abortion, I wouldn't be here today....Bonus


yikes my second insightful in the last 2 responses. I also extend the me not telling someone what to do with their body to the right to die with dignity {assisted suicide}
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
8 by little_whip
Thursday, October 06, 2005


Also be prepared to contract some kind of sexually transmitted disease {aids Hep b and c


Hep C is almost impossible to transmit sexually, MM, you should know that!


I do whip the odds are about 50,000 to one you won't get it, do you want to gamble with your life? even at 50,000 to 1>
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

...and then give that child up to be adopted by a loving, responsible, childless couple instead of using it to up your welfare check while you go on Jerry Springer having half the damn town tested to find out who your 'baby-daddy' is.

Akk I hate that term, I want to spit every time I see or hear it.

Exactly. Adoption is ALWAYS an option.  it's not easy, but neither is abortion...or it SHOULDN'T be easy, anyway.

'My baby daddy' makes me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it.  Mind you, a lot of ebonics make me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it. 

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

Jerry Springer having half the damn town tested to find out who your 'baby-daddy' is.

I thought that was Maury Povich?

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: dharmagrlPosted: Thursday, October 06, 2005...and then give that child up to be adopted by a loving, responsible, childless couple instead of using it to up your welfare check while you go on Jerry Springer having half the damn town tested to find out who your 'baby-daddy' is.Akk I hate that term, I want to spit every time I see or hear it.Exactly. Adoption is ALWAYS an option. it's not easy, but neither is abortion...or it SHOULDN'T be easy, anyway.'My baby daddy' makes me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it. Mind you, a lot of ebonics make me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it.


wha choo mean? de mofo, dat got me preggers gotta pay!!
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Thursday, October 06, 2005Jerry Springer having half the damn town tested to find out who your 'baby-daddy' is.I thought that was Maury Povich?


I think they all do that show, not that I watch that crap anymore {although for one solid year I did}
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

think they all do that show, not that I watch that crap anymore {although for one solid year I did}

My Dentist is too cheap to get cable, so when I have to go for a teeth cleaning, guess what is on?

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
14 by Dr. Guy
Thursday, October 06, 2005


think they all do that show, not that I watch that crap anymore {although for one solid year I did}

My Dentist is too cheap to get cable, so when I have to go for a teeth cleaning, guess what is on?


yikes I do not know what would be more painful, having a tooth fixed or watching jerry or maury.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
'My baby daddy' makes me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it. Mind you, a lot of ebonics make me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it.


I didn't realize that "baby daddy" was ebonics--I just thought it was slang for "my baby's daddy." I first heard when I was in Belfast--and there's not a lot of ebonics going on there...

Everyone knows my position on this, so I won't bore y'all.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Thursday, October 06, 2005'My baby daddy' makes me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it. Mind you, a lot of ebonics make me want to slap the mouth of the person saying it. I didn't realize that "baby daddy" was ebonics--I just thought it was slang for "my baby's daddy." I first heard when I was in Belfast--and there's not a lot of ebonics going on there...Everyone knows my position on this, so I won't bore y'all.


irish ebonics? hmmmm gaylick? hahahahahaha


lighten up shades not everything is an attack on something.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Everyone knows my position on this, so I won't bore y'all


You won't bore me. So, speak up!

I always thought 'babydaddy' WAS ebonics. Kind of like 'what i did man' and 'we po' folks'
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
"We so po', we can't afford the 'o' and 'r'!"
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
18 by shadesofgrey
Friday, October 07, 2005


lighten up shades not everything is an attack on something.


didn't say it was.


I sit corrected.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
19 by dharmagrl
Friday, October 07, 2005


You won't bore me. So, speak up!


shades does not bore me either she has actually changed my mind a time or two.

gasppppppp.........
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
20 by Zoomba
Friday, October 07, 2005


We so po', we can't afford the 'o' and 'r'!"


sorry to correct you but the sentence should be'

We be so po we cannot afford the other o and r. heh
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
I always thought 'babydaddy' WAS ebonics. Kind of like 'what i did man' and 'we po' folks'


It very well could be--I honestly don't know. If that's the case--certain ebonics phrases have found their way into modern, standard slang.

The term is a little jarring the first couple of times you hear it...but I suppose, given the nature of society, it fills a void. I mean, what else do you call "him" when "husband" is not an option? The "father of my child" sounds so victorian.

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Now, back to the thread at hand. I promise you Dharma--it's all the same old stuff. Here's the deal, MM, if you support a woman's right to choose, you are pro-choice. Being pro-choice does not mean that you believe that women should use abortion as birth control...it means that you don't feel that it is the government's place to dictate to a woman that she must carry a fetus to term. See, here's the deal. I've never been in that situation--I've never been fifteen and pregnant, or pregnant with an abusive husband, or hell, even pregnant. I can't say what I would do--but I do, firmly, believe, that it is not my place (nor the government's place) to make that decision for anyone else. It's a matter that is between the individual and their god.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
MM, if you support a woman's right to choose, you are pro-choice. Being pro-choice does not mean that you believe that women should use abortion as birth control..


arggggggg, shades It's very difficult even for me to define, I hate abortion and think it's usded much to frequently, But it's not my body. arggggggggggg.

Maybe I will go conservative on this and start rethinking my moderate position on abortion.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
arggggggg, shades It's very difficult even for me to define, I hate abortion and think it's usded much to frequently, But it's not my body. arggggggggggg


I'm not explaining myself very well. What I am trying to say is that a lot of people who are pro-choice feel the same way you do.