by the way one of the Muslims calling for the death of the pope had been on fox with bill telling him how only the radical Muslims call for the death of anyone. she was one of the leading voices calling for the death of the pope. and today there was another Muslim as stupid as this one on CNN. <
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Let them dictate what we think and say, no. And that is what is happening here. His knighting (not even of this country) has nothing to do with GB's foreign policy or the way they conduct relations with other countries I agree, and i didnt say or imply anything that suggests that. However, his knighting
These are the same Muslims who are offended by the UK actionsthese are the same Muslims who called for the death of the pope when he quoted someone elsethese are also the same Muslims that called for the total destruction of Holland because of one cartoon in one newspaper. these are also the same Muslims that called for the destr
I'll align myself with more civilized Muslims, thank you. These are the same Muslims who are offended by the UK actions. Read what they, these same Muslims, say and you will understand what i am saying.
I don't WANT anyone who would condone the murder of an author over a work of fiction 'on our side.'Most moderate Muslims were horrified when the fatwa was issued, and many actually admire Rushdie's work. THESE are the ones we want on our side. finally you got the point. the moderate Muslims are offended
if you think free expression equals 'ammunition.' Do you even know what it was, precisely, about The Satanic Verses that Muslims found so offensive? Offensive enough to advocate the murder of the author? You still missing the point. i didnt object to him writing anything. I disgreed with it but i didnt
And if you get right down to it, what is offensive to you, is not to me, and vice versa That is true. but shouldnt we consider how our enemy think and use that to our advantage? they didnt blame rushdie's writings on us, but for us to honor him offends their people, the people we want to get on our sid
You've suggested that ENGLAND, a soveriegn nation and our most faithful ally, has no right to honor authors they feel have made significant contributions to literature. That's even worse. Did i say that England doesnt have that right? i said their action is not helping in the war of terror. Having the
Why are you not up in arms over Agnes of God? It sure as hell slams Catholics. How about the Passion of Christ? I certainly got offended by these as w
His Knighthood wasn't for the Satanic Verses, it was for his contributions to literature over his whole career. And what are these contributions? .......
There should be a single standard to evaluate religious and community matters That is my point , besides there should be some thinking behind the official "evaluation". Governments' actions are critical particularly in a time of war. And thanks for the compliment.
Much of your writing is offensive to me, TA (as I would imagine much of mine is to you)...should it be banned? I should hope not. I would hope you would afford me the privilege of free speech even in disagreement, as I would you we both may disagree on what we write, but i never felt that what you say o
How 'bout this? ALLAH AND ALL WHO WORSHIP HIM CAN KISS MY FAT ASS That is truly great intellect. Someone should give you a "Foolhood" for that.
his fame is the fault of those complaining about his fame, very much like the way 'Passion of the Christ' won notoriety when various Jewish groups decried it as anti-Semetic Not true by any stretch of the imagination. The Book and the Movie were both a big hit when they were issued. the media made a b
You seem to be validating the actions of the extremists who act against offenses against Islam. Odd that someone who enjoys the shield and shelter of free speech is so quick to remove it from other people (Rushdie) because it's offensive to some. Is that what I said Gid? I didnt care either when he wrot
Few days ago the British Government honored Salman Rushdie, the West-Celebrated Islam-Bashing Indian writer by making him a Knight. Now, if Rushdie was a great novelist or even close to that one would understand honoring him with such a venerated title. But given that his only achievement was that he wrote a novel in which he insulted Islam and its prophet i
So, where's all the extra oil Bush went in to Iraq for You can ask the same question about OUR own oil itself. Why aren't we producing enough oil from our Own reserves to cover our needs? we have the reserves, why aren't we producing from it what we need instead of importing almost 50% of our needs? Once we are there, it is now "Our" reserves (or so we think), why should we deplete it so fast. remember as a child, when y
I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say country first. It is only due to our ability to separate religious belief from public law that those of you who DO worship are able
The stars are not wanted now: put out every one;Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood.For nothing now can ever come to any good not as good as it used to be anyway. It really feels that way. it is amazing how a single human can have such an effect on the worl
You scored as Friedrich Schleiermacher, You seek to make inner feeling and awareness of God the centre of your theology, which is the foundation of liberalism That is really amazing Baker. I got the same thing. But you, a Liberal???? What is going on Baker, we agree on few things, but to get the same on this issue!!! Strange things happen on JU,
I will assure you though that if you look at these forms you will still have little comprehension of the process. Believe me, i know full well the stupidity and the hassel , not just in this process but for anything that has Gov involved in it. I understand completely the agony and the frustartions bu
TA please tell me how you differentiate work permits and immigration visas? A big difference my friend. Work permits are just that. The gov issues them with a limited-time visa to work at a specific job and location. when they lose that job or the time expires they leave unless they can get the emplo
Me? Upset? Nah, it takes a lot to get me mad. Don't worry. Great, that is my kind of thinking. Thanks. we were trying to get those bills killed, but you did not hear us f
besides there are already 2 to 15 laws on the books that aren't being enforced do you really think one more law will change things you are right. and all laws must be enforced, the problem is current laws have no way of getting needed labor in the country in a simple easy way. and if this bill needs rev
Which may indicate you think that clinton was an idiot after you found a policy you did not agree with, yet you have not stated you have found him to be an idiot. Comon Doc. you missing the point again. it is not that they disagreed with him, it is the way they did and at the same time they didnt even l