So no, God does not know what it is like to lose a child and not know why or if you would ever see your child again. I think the main point of the story was to illustrate that God shares our pain and suffering. Jesus’ words on the cross, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” illustrate that God felt the depths of human abandonment and suff
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How else do you deal with having your 2yr old get hit and killed by a car? What reason would there be for such a thing? Did any good come from it? Yes, I’m convinced that a higher good will come from it, (possibly even in this life). But due to our tiny, finite scope, our human minds cannot (yet) expand into a frame of reference which enables t
I think that everything that happens is God’s will "Everything happens for a reason" is how I meant to word that. Although I suppose it's the same thing. ("God's will" just sounds like we're victims, which we're not.)
HC, I believe it was a miracle that your daughter survived too. I don’t believe in accidents. I think that everything that happens is God’s will, including things that seem a bit grim. It is true that other Christians might have testimonies like yours, but in which their child died. How would your faith have been if your daughter hadn’t survived? I read the following story, which holds great meaning to me: There was a Christian woman who, having lost her young child to lukaemia
I thought we already covered this principle....LOL Yes, you're right babe. We'll not go there again So if you have a lustful eye
I find comfort in that there is such a thing as truth. So it really comes down to....do we recognize it? That's a good one KFC. Would we recognise Truth
next thing you know you will be defining Faith as "confidence" Confidence is one word Fox, but I think that "intuition" is a better one. Most people’s faith is rooted in at least a little bit of intuition. Intuition stems from within a deeper level of the human spirit, and it is here - within the human
I don't think I'm going to have a body like I have now. I'll have a glorified body. I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I think it's like the body Jesus had after He was resurrected. He still retained some of his physical characteristics (people were able to recognize Him), and He told Thomas to go ahead and touch Him (don't know if he did or not)... and yet he was a
What Peter was saying was that scripture interprets itself KFC, are you talking about interpreting verses literally? What about verses like Mt 5:29-30 : “If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away … And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away” Where do we draw the line regarding Biblica
My expierence in dealing with these kinds of people over the last twelve years is that they are remarkably like everybody else. I remember being at a car show in a park one summer afternoon and talking to a guy about the cycles on display and a week later found myself booking him in on a murder warrant from California. Funny, but at the time I was talking to him he had are
Nice one KFC, I love you too. I love all on JU, (that sounds sickly, but it's true!)
Hi KFC, Yes, my parents are fundies, so they’re similar to you. Although they don’t talk much about their views, so there's a few differences So what happened to you? hehehehehe God knows what happened to me babe, but I'm sure I’m a fundie at he
Andy, your attitude toward religion, and thought in general reeks of arrogance. I have to agree with you Foxy. I sometimes look back on my posts and I cringe. There’s something clinical and condescending about them. But I’m just describing my truth from my own point of view, just as everyone is. You’ll have to excuse me if I reek of arrogance. I
I don't operate well on faith. I need to have a reason to believe something. I can't just force myself to believe something that doesn't make sense to me. I've struggled with it for years having read the bible over and over trying to find some wiggle room to make myself believe in it as I did when I was younger. But I can't. Faith can't be forced.
I’ve got a lot to say about these views, some of which I’ve said before (in different ways), but I want to express it anyway, as it’s been bubbling up inside me. I know that some people might not agree with it, or might not be interested, or will think I’m just being arrogant. But this topic is my primary passion, and these are my views anyway, If we adhere to tr
I am simultaneously a mere speck of dust in the continuum of space and time, yet able to stretch the same like taffy in my hands. What does that make me? That’s a good point little whip. Through the eyes of the world, we are mere specks of dust in a vast, blindly indifferent universe. But through the eyes of Spirit, we are spiritual being
“There is a flying teapot orbiting Mars. You cannot disprove the existence of the teapot, therefore I conclude that it exists.” (that was an edit. I'd typed up his analogy wrong.)
I hold the position that unless a God shows up, I am not saying there is one. I hold no belief in a God which is by definition atheist. It doesn't require faith to be an atheist, are you saying that babies have faith that there isn't a God? . . . Smith spells it out pretty clearly, even if you think he is misguided. That is an opinion that is not held with critical though
6,000 years of advancements in knowledge and technology, and we still can't figure out, with absolute certainty, how it all happened and came together. Stephen Hawking, the greatest theoretical physicist in the world (and some say history) used to be a determined atheist. After he attained a certain point in his researches, though, it became clear to him that, a
Well said HC! Good stuff,
Atheism is lack of faith, Most Christians are agnostic by necessity. Foxjazz, that's faulty logic. (George H. Smith isn't infallible, you know. Some of his conclusions are misguided.) If
(by the way, I'm not trying to undermine your faith here KFC. I'm just genuinely intrigued about the issue, and I'm trying to see the rationale in it. Many people hold these beliefs dear to them, I know, and I think that I often come across as an arrogant loud mouth on these pages. You'll have to excuse me. I'm not sure if I belong here half the time)
Hi KFC, it’s nice to see you again. Where have you been? I thought you’d abandoned us What kind of God do I ascribe to? A kind loving merciful God who is always faithful to me even when I'm not so faithful to him.. He's a comforter, a help in distress and one that gives me chance after chance to get things right as he is so patient as well. He's doing a work in me
Understand that being a Catholic, I do not believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. So I picked that statement out to comment upon. You may be right, but one of the most conservative things in the world is religion. It barely changes with the times. And that is actually a good thing. What good would religion be if it swayed with the public mood? (Situationa
Faith by definition is belief in something without any reason to do so I disagree. Fox, as an atheist it is true that you have your own faith. The only way anyone could possess a faith-free understanding is to have an infallible knowledge of everything, which is an attribute given only to God. Theistic faith and atheistic faith both make statemen