we seem to also have evolved to think of some things--such as the Holocaust--as evil. But this raises a dilemma: which natural result of natural processes is more "natural"? Which is the evolutionary outcome we should embrace, the Holocaust or Human Rights? And if some of us choose the Holocaust, how can the rest of us c
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I thought so! no probs
Passion is a good thing. Lukewarm is the utmost worse thing. I am glad you shared your views. But I do think you have so much passion you're all over the place. I agree that passion is a good thing. But I don’t think I’m all over the place. It can be difficult to put some things into words, especially when talking about such deep issues. To me, a
I personally believe that humanity will eventually grow out of extreme religious fundamentalism "humanity" here, I should have said the popular western mind, which is what I was referring to primarily
That is, reason observed an otherness, since we cannot be responsible for creating ourselves without knowing what the other is but accepts as rational. Faith translated the What to Who. That's right. I don’t think that it ends with faith, however. Intuition also plays a great part. Without intuition, I’m sure that faith alone would be somewhat em
However, the suffering involved in nature actually enriches Christian faith, because divine suffering is central to Christianity. Nevertheless, it is arrant justification for sadism . . . "Would you as God go ahead with cr
FKC (sorry KFC, i meant KFC!!)
The "designer" isn't really any more important to ID than the "creator" is to evolution One of the biggest logical problems facing adherents of ID, especially Christians and other theists, is the reality of suffering and tragedy occurring within living systems, and in nature. We've all seen TV documentaries showing how living creatures eat other
The fact is there were biologists who in the last few decades wanted to explore the idea that maybe this wasn't always random genetic change suiting or not suiting a species. That maybe there were ways that nature itself could steer these geneti variances in a way that beneficial change was more often manufactured. Not AFTER thousands of freak mutations occured, were teste
Happy New Year all! The quantum enthusiasts would differ here:they seem to think they are on the verge of poking through the infinitesimal via strings and discovering parallel dimensions. Now that's dealing with the invisible visibly. That’s very true. Traditional science is unable to discern whether God is “good”, or “love”, or not, how
. . . in Jesus’ words: "The Kingdom of God does not come visibly. No one will say 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!'; because the Kingdom of God is within you.” - Luke 17.21 (an overly used quote by me. But I love that one) I must be a fundie at heart
Now, don't go overboard. You're back to ID as a spiritual thing. yes, it’s a spiritual thing, and I admit I might have sounded over-zealous. But I’m not saying that it’s a science like ID, which attempts to prove spiritual things via traditional scientific methods, like proving the laws of gravity. It can be proved for oneself on a personal level
The cleaning has to come from the inside first. Kinda puts it all in perspective doesn't it? Good stuff, I like it. No matter how much we strive to keep up our outer, worldly appearances, what rea
Nice chatting w/ya tho!! You too KFC! I think it's an interesting topic to discuss. Thanks for sharing your views, we'll chat again later, no doubt
Jesus became a maggot to show us the way out Am I to interpret this statement literally, or is it a metaphorical statement? <TABLE cellpadding=8 width="95%" align=center bgColor=#FFF394 class=
God's word has all the answers in there. You don't need to hear from me....it's him. He's God, not me. His word is objective while the world's way is subjective. Yes, I agree. If we believe that God inspired the content of Genesis, (and I believe that He did), then it could be said that the objective part of Genesis chapter 1 is the underlying m
hmmm not getting you here. Where is the problem here? I'm not sure, to be honest. There's not really a problem. All I was saying is that Chapter 2:5-7 implies that God created man before any kind of plants or vegetation existed, which contradicts Genesis chapter 1. The New International Version says: Chap 2:5-7: "And no shurb of the
Hi KFC, thanks for your reply. I'd love to know exactly what it is that bothers you about taking Genesis literally I think that it’s fine to interpret Genesis chapter 1 literally. I don’t have a problem with people who do so. I personally choose to interpret it as an allegorical account, because I think that it’s been written more in t
Both creationists and evolutionists are right. It just depends on which way you look at it. You are such a diplomat.....LOL.....that I do like about you. But they can't both be. One says young earth less than 10,000 years o
Hi KFC, Happy Christmas to you, and to everyone at JU too!!! Hope you've had a good one so far, A true Christian never becomes a "former Christian." It means they called themselves Christian but in name only. If you are "born" a Christian (by the spirit) you cannot become unborn. Once born always born. The physical is a picture of the spiritual. Just like we are b
ya I believe in evolution.....God said it.....and BANG....it happened. That's about as far as i go I like that, and I completely agree with you. It's a simple point of view, which I believe is wholly aligned with God's point of view. God's Mind transcends space and time, which means that from a 'God's eye perspective' of the universe, that's exac
Well I think Christ did the conquering.....we just need to follow him. And accept that he did it for us. After all he's considered the Conquerer....we are too but only in Him. Yes, I agree. As Jesus said, “In the world you will have tribulation. But be of good cheer. I have overcome the world.” Christ has already conquered the ultimate obstacles
I always enjoy talking to you!!! You and Adventure Dude keep me on my toes....fer sure. Yes, I enjoy chatting with you too. Being kept on our toes, or getting nudged out of our comfort zones, can be good for spiritual growth and expansion. That isn’t a negative thing. <TABLE cellpadding=8 width="95%" align=center bgColor=#FFF394 class="m
In the Garden of Eden, there were two trees mentioned specifically (The Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil). We know that Adam & Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden because they ate of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, but did they ever eat any of the fruit of the Tree of Life? Were they ever told not to? Was there any mention of the purpose of t
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