According to an article I read, and posted, here a few weeks ago, Carter allowed the shah to fall mainly because he didn't like Iran's Human Rights record, centering on their treatment of two Soviet spies. He thought Khomeni would make a betetr leader for the country because he was a religious man. I don't care what anyone says; Carter was a horribly weak president who rode into the Oval Office floating on the wreckage of the Republican party wrought by Nixon and Waterg
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Do you remember what John Walker Lindh showed us? That fanatic muslims don't fit a single mold, it can be anywhere, anytime ---Lucas (SiPo) True, but the vast majority of Middle Eastern, or "brown" peoples ARE Muslims. Sure, we COULD end up with a black, white, orange, green or purple Muslim, but there are far, far more brown ones. So, if we
How about you place yourself into their shoes, would you still do it? ---SiPo (Lucas) I know this was addressed to the Doc, but let's not forget that, at the time, the nation was seized with hysteria. The Japanese had attacked us, suddenly we were very much involved in a war most of the nation had very much hoped to avoid, and her
Please ignore kingbee's arrogance....he's right and everyone who disagrees with him is wrong. Just deal with it. Lots, indeed most, of us start out with the high ideals of youth. The smart ones eventually come to the realization that, though idealism is laudable, it is rarely practical, and can even be dangerous in the long run. Welcome to MENSA.:)
But since you are a liberal, and you demanded a conservative justify a liberal (who also did not do that), dont demand of a conservative to explain what a liberal meant if you are too cowardly to take on the task yourself. ---Dr Guy Now, now folks....I'll gladly take the points, but let's keep it civil. And yes, you did call him an asshole, Lucas.
Good points, well presented. Here's something I posted: https://forums.joeuser.com/?forumid=259&aid=135059#1045747 I didn't write it, of course...I'm not that smart....but I thought it was an interesting read. Here's a Carter-related article I posted a good while back, when still new to JU: https://forums.joeuser.com/?forumid=2&aid=65874
This is very good stuff...very good indeed. We ought to make a mass e-mail or snail mail out of it and flood the DNC headquarters with it. Considering that Bush wants to get into bed with Iran and Syria, too...maybe even flood the White House. Well done.
I guess, i've just read too much stuff by ghandi. ---Lucas Yeah, well, don't forget....Ghandi was murdered by a religious fanatic. Too bad it wasn't a Muslim fanatic; that would have worked out great here! Woulda fit right into my point!
That's Righwingers point, "diplomacy" has killed far more people than any war. How so? I don't think anyone ever answered this for him. Diplomats are seldom willing to admit that all their work has come to nothing. Therefore, they keep talking and talking while people keep dying and dying. We saw it all through th
I'm actually going to cross the political line and say that war is indeed necessary. Yes, I agree with conservatives...oooh, I'm a bad liberal ---Zoo Not bad, just smarter than the average. <TABLE cellpadding=8 width=
Lucas, I guess I misunderstood your post; I apologize for getting so upset. It happens to the best of us, no worries. And so, you go on to ignore everything else I wrote. And no, it wasn't "total bullshit" in the pre-Civil War days. There literally were fistfights on the floor of the Senate over th
Well it could be handy. Maybe my leaders would start acting in the interests of my own country rather than in the interests of yours ---cacto Maybe your leaders better perceive the Islamic Fundie threat than you do. You are, after all, extremely biased by your contact with people of that faith. A decent analogy could probably
Lucas, I guess I misunderstood your post; I apologize for getting so upset. Now, having said that...... That's where we part, I don't think it is often a necessary thing. I'd much rather solve things through diplomacy, etc...anything but the shed of blood. ---SilentPoet I have news for you....diplomacy only works if BOTH s
You do realize that we'd be looked at as horrible people even more, that we'd be no better than we were in WW2. ---Silent Poet OH MY GOD! I was just going to let this thread go on without saying anything, since there really wasn't any point in further commenting on a joke. But man, this was just too much. Silent Poet, ar
Yes, I think the Democrats may be right, for a change. It’s time we started talking. Negotiations do indeed seem the only way to resolve the current situation with the Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists. Pull out of Iraq, bring the troops home. Allow the area to settle a bit. Let the Islamists do as they will, and just live and let live. You know, I really think we should invite their leaders to the table, just to talk. Embrace them; find out what motivates them
lets see now, I retired at 50 after selling not one but two successful businesses. I own my own home, not the bank , me. I have a beach house I rarely visit. All bills are paid., No credit card debt. Yep sound like a failure to me. ---Modman Yeah, but you're a Jew. <img src="http://images.stardock
Thanks for that, Tex....I love the Simpsons. They're so....correctly un-politically correct. They always seem able to cut to the heart of a stupid issue. That last line is great. There's the paradox, right there.
The company I work for recently enacted a new Diversity policy. There are posters in the breakroom, restrooms and hallways of happy, smiling people of many and varied races, genders and apparent religions, all just gittin’ along in happy, smiling, productive peace ‘n’ harmony. "Our Strengths Lie In Our Differences", "We’re Different, but Stronger"---mottos like that. Goofy and corny. Let’s face it; are you really gonna get along better with people who are, and see things diff
neither foley the perv ---Modman Y'know, Foley may or may not be a perv, but it's still pretty sad to think that the Democratic operatives sat on the messages in question for 6 months before letting them out. Just in time, mind you, for maximum political and election impact. Then they want to point to and hide behind the old "think about the
I know this is long, but I thought it was interesting, and so I'm just throwin' it out there. It didn't give the author's name for some reason.----Rob From: INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY Posted 9/29/2006 Today's Democrats are nothing like Presidents Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy, who with courage and decisive action kept on top of their jobs and aggressively confronted one national defense crisis after another. Jimmy Carter, elected during the Cold
All the major western countries were offered Germany's Jews and refused the refugees. I seriously doubt government intelligence was so poor that the leaders didn't know what would happen to them if they were forced to stay in Germany. --cacto Sadly, this is true. What ship was it? The ST. LOUIS? Full of European Jews. It made port all up
Did he ever apologize for saying that US soldiers terrorized Iraqi women and children in the night? No. Did he ever apologize for, or even address and attempt to explain, his anti-Vietnam comments, shitting and pissing on his comrades and their efforts, before the Senate Commitee back in '73? No (and that's the main reason he didn't get my vote). How about for throwing his medals, including those three purple hearts----the ones he trotted out so proudly, and
This is truly an abominable act of such hatred. How can they take history and defile it so by denying it? ---jennifer1 Because they hate Jews. ~~shrug~~ There you go. And so he should be imprisoned. A lot of F
Six million Jews and unknown numbers of others died in the Nazi Holocaust. I believe it; I know it's a fact. I know this because I've seen overwhelming and satisfactory evidence, and heard the stories from my great-uncle Arthur, whose division, the Fighting 42nd, liberated a Death Camp. Iran, purposely taking another giant step away from the sanity and order of the rest of modern civilization, sponsored a contest to see who could come up with the best Holocaust cartoon.
The Wife and I go to Goodwill all the time. Just a couple weeks ago, I spent about 12 bucks and got 15 or 16 perfectly good articles of clothing, including a really nice sports jacket, which I got for a dollar. She often finds, along with clothes, one or two articles of (normally ridiculously expensive) Home Interiors merchandise, which she adores, for maybe 5 or 6 bucks or less. I get a lot of my clothes there, especially work clothes. I just don't see the point in spending the kind of