Frankly, I don't think the problem, as it were, is quite as you state it. Before Fox, the media were liberally biased while pretending not to be. Although, I haven't seen Outfoxed, I have watched a lot of O'Reilly, H&C and Hume. I'm sure any dolt could do a cut & paste hatchet job on any news organization & make it look foolish (F9/11 did the political equivalent), so the notion that Outfoxed is somehow insightful or enlightening seems a bit
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Maybe we agree more than we disagree here, cacto. No society has ever been without a power class, no society ever will be, on that it appears we agree. In undemocratic societies the makeup of that class is dictated by the use of force by the power class, however, official or unofficial. In democratic societies (I use the term in its common meaning, not literal) the makeup of that class is constantly shifting with members moving in & out more or less
Cactoblasta - Some were indeed afraid of pure democracy and its potential for anarchy, but they were smart enough to construct a representative system that avoided some of pure democracy's pitfalls. And I completely disagree concerning the "whole point." That is a gross oversimplification and flies in the face of historical fact. And if that was their secret intent, they failed. Power in America is not concentrated in a single unchanging c
Western democracies, based on clever use of oligarchies and the manipulation of human common sense What a snobbish, elitist statement. Would never have have been uttered by any of the Founders. Unlike many who pay lip service to the notions of individual freedom and governmental self-regulation, they
The attendance record should be based on how often a committeman is present during crucial meetings, not coffee bull-sessions.By the way, how many times has Bush been in the oval office as opposed to his ranch? Steve - You obviously hadn't had your coffee yet when you sat down at the keyboard
Funny that people are complaining about Kerry repeating a topic over and over again Funnier still that what Kerry's complaining about over & over again is that a topic is being repeated over & over again. Ain't politics the sweet science? Cheers, Daiwa
Kerry's folks seem to think they've found the Holy Grail and that by continuously and repeatedly shining their big bright light on it, it will work to their advantage. Hate to admit it, but they may be succeeding to some extent. Heard about a poll put out today (sorry, can't say whose) indicating that more people are inclined to believe the Bush campaign is "behind" the SwiftBoat vets now that Ginsburg (sp?) has resigned from the campaign. Never min
I'm with you, Charlie. I'm ready to move on soon as Kerry & his minions shut up about it. There in a bit of a bind, though, so I don't know how soon they're going to let go of it. Cheers, Daiwa
Me too, but when invited to join McCain and Bush's legal effort, the Kerry campaign replied "That isn't the issue". . They are so pathetic. Cheers, Daiwa
To address the point of the article, the reason that Kerry's folks won't acknowledge what the President has said is that there is no reason for them to do so. They can milk this more on the downside for a bit of political hay on Kerry' side. Why would they let it go? Altruism? There is precious little of that to be had here...</T
The more this story plays out, the more hypocritical and underhanded the Democrats and their associated smear groups look. I hope they keep the bitchin' & moanin' goin' - they look worse & worse every day they do it. Cheers, Daiwa
Hmm that's a odd statement. It means he wanted to stop EACH OTHER ad, which means he wanted to stop half of ads? Really, XX. I hope you had your tongue placed conspicuously in your cheek when you wrote that, otherwise I dunno... Cheers, Daiwa
The inexorable law of unintended consequences is expressing itself once again. Campaign finance reform is an oxymoron. Its intent was to make sure only the two major parties had any money at crunch time and to be sure they could stifle any troublesome citizens; it has succeeded at the former while failing at the latter. The whole issue of how campaigns can or should be financed is tricky. There are definitely drawbacks to unfettered, unlimi
one's chances of being elected dogcatcher--anywhere but in berkerley--after being involved in the antiwar movement in 1971 were slim and none. Didn't exactly work out that way, did it, Kingbee. Have you forgotten? Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. Besides, you put a few extra words in my mouth he
Here, here, pictoratus. Cheers, Daiwa
Anne Alogy - a President whose miltiary records are either non-existent, or muddled at best, and whose campaign staff is questioning the war hero's patriotism. Not true, on either count. Bush's campaign staff have consistently and repeatedly praised Kerry's service, as has Bush himself. Stop perpetuati
Depends on what yu mean by "direct", considering he has hired people from moveon.org as campaign staff. I think the links between Kerry and smear are much more apparant than that between Bush and smear. Isn't Joe WIlson still working for him, even after the Senate Intelligence comittee debunked him? Never saw Kerry condemn those
Oh, forgot to add: Don't misunderestimate him. And whether Bush or Kerry wins, our problem dealing with terrorism is not going away. There is a scenario that seems to me to be a real possibility if Kerry wins - when we have another 9/11-equivalent (or attempt) after the election, he becomes an even bigger hawk than Bush. Big sensitive hawk. <img src="../images
The attacks against Cleland and McCain were also equally shameful. pk65 - You and I agree on this. Trash is trash now matter who dumps it. But there is a willingness, even eagerness, on the part of too many to see people pulling strings in the background when no such thing is happening. If McCain
I've felt all along that the specific allegations of the swift boat guys had more to do with Kerry's actions and overblown (dare I say, fabricated?) claims made after leaving Viet Nam than what he did or didn't do while there. And I'm not prepared to cast doubt on every Viet Nam medal recipient by suggesting the process for awarding them was tainted, even in Kerry's case. I will observe, however, that from the perspective of the left (
Pretty interesting thread. A comment & some replies. Little_whip & BakerStreet: Ditto. Couldn't begin to say it better. Well done. As for striking preemptively, well, the US has suggested that such an action is legal, so really if the US can do it to spread democracy, then it's only just that Iran can do it t
At last, we have at least one rabid liberal hater to partially offset the rabid pack of conservative haters. Yes, Ann can be irritatingly arrogant, but stupid she's not. Claims to that effect are another manifestation of liberal snobbery. Their definition of a stupid person is: any person, intelligent or not, who holds or states views contrary to their own. <TABLE cel
Regardless of whether some left wing kooks can nit-pick some aspect of the background of one or two of them, Brad, I'm on your side of this issue in the broadest sense, but I must concede there is more than nit-picking when it comes to the background of some of the enablers of the vets, not so
thats even more dastardly than going to vietnam just so he could be president You've finally admitted it! Woohoo! What silliness, kingbee. If you can't see the "convenience" of the moveon ad, you are truly blind. You're li
kerry condemned the moveon.org ad about bush. Which was put out, intentionally including particularly inflammatory allegations, just so Kerry could have something to condemn and thereby pretend to lay claim to the high ground. How convenient. The Bush campaign has been publicly stating and supporting