MM, I suspect we are as we do , rather than what we did . I know my history includes killing other men. I don't do it any more. And very much regret the fact that I did it then. Be well.
[quote] instead use only those words from outsiders who will help corroborate my agenda? [/quote] You consider Mary Magdalene an outsider?
KFC, this is a codex (link ) from the 4th or 5th century. Not a "counterfeit". That it is not canonical does not render it as any less worthy of study, just as we study the Dead Sea Scrolls to offer context to biblical times. The gospels as they stand in your current New Testament are a collection of Mss. edited and revised by early church founders. In order to get a clear understand
Ahhh, I see now. I was referring to the Gospel of Mary Link . Chapter 9 1) When Mary had said this, she fell silent, since it was to this point that the Savior had spoken with her. 2) But Andrew answered and said to the brethren, Say what you wish to say about what she has said. I at least do not believe that the Savior said this. For cert
I do not see the possibility of a single state other than the State of Israel as it is. Rather than trying to destroy Israel, perhaps it would be wiser for Palestinians to try to work with her toward finding a way to live together. Both sides need to find ways to resolve their conflicts non-violently. Shalom.
Nightshades, I understand your point and its one well taken. We must become one with the Absolute and often, too often, text is take to be the proof rather than the experience of the Infinite. From my point of view, there are three pillars, so to speak, of spiritual practice. These are Study, Prayer/Meditation, and Loving-kindness. Over time and with diligent practice, these become one in the same. Sometimes, however, practitioners get caught up in one or the other of
[quote]Would you feel better Leauki if I scanned the bible that I have and sent it to you so that you could see it for yourself? [/quote] Nightshades, it has nothing to do with whether or not your copy of the bible says what you say it says. It has to do with what the original Hebrew says. The original Hebrew text from which all bibles are translated, uses the Hebrew word for "murder" not "kill". See ya.
[quote]taking out the part about the husband being the head as Christ was. [/quote] But see, I don't see Christ as the head of anything, nor do I see the husband as the head. I see marriage as a partnership where roles are decided internally, not externally. Be well.
[quote]Let each of them make their own decisions. [/quote] Agreed. Yet roles are not individual, they are social constructs. Religion has had a historic role in creating or certainly influencing (and perhaps legislating) these constructs. Its like women were free to decide who they would become, but only amongst a set of prescribed roles based on what the Church said was appropriate. I see this as sexist, pure and simple.
Very interesting lesson. Thank you. I am of mixed thoughts about the historicity of Abraham. I read Paul Johnson's account of the history of the Jews and he seems to be as certain as you are, yet I still see it as a take it on faith issue. Clearly, the story of Abraham is very important and like much myth it helps us to make sense of our reality. What is the evidence of Abraham's actual existence? See ya!
[quote]As Christ is head of the church, the husband should be head of his family. I think you forget who washed who's feet. I think you forget who died, and who lived. Christ washed their feet, Christ died for them(and us). That's how men are supposed to live as the head, not lording it over their wives like you would have 'leader' mean. The natural response to a leading husband is to submit to that leadership. [/quote] Hi J, These were Paul's words, not mine.
A wonderful story. Thank you!
[quote]Behold the power of kvetching?[/quote] The basis for the development of the JAP. (Jewish American Princess) See ya.
[quote]Behold the power of kvetching? what's that mean? [/quote] Yiddish. It means a sort of complaining. I hope your sauce turned out well. See ya.
[quote]He was jealous, plain and simple, and scared of his power being taken from him by them. [/quote] Yes, all was not white clouds and syrup amongst the disciples. I understand from reading this gospel fragment that Peter had issues with Mary...goodness.
[quote]Behold the power of kvetching?[/quote] AD, Our Sisterhood never tires of telling us they bring in 25% of the Temple's Annual Budget. for this, they get 75% control...or to hear them tell it, they do. :HOT:
[quote]As for Hindus, my flatmate is a Hindu. I can ask him, but I am pretty sure that Hindus don't believe in an "end of the world" like Christians, Jews, and Muslims do. They have a worldview based on a circle or wheel, I think.[/quote] Interesting Leauki, Buddhists do not really have an eschatological world view either, much more inclined to infinite process, I suspect. Judaism has never been a "end times" religion much either. Eschatology never seeme
[quote]While we are equal and are created equal we are not given equal roles. God has diff roles for men than he does have for women. [/quote] Agreed. Yet, this is a serious problem. Its easy to say women and men are equal but have different roles, but how is this operationalized? Only until recently were women allowed to work at jobs outside of the home, obtain educations, and have professional lives. Each of these steps were opposed by many Christ
[quote]During the time of Jesus women were not highly regarded and he elevated them as equals to man. While we are equal and are created equal we are not given equal roles. God has diff roles for men than he does have for women. [/quote] Nothing in itself. However, women are not equal according to Paul. Women are subservient and should keep quiet. Colossians 3 18: Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19: Hus
Ladies, I wouldn't get all excited about the status of women under Christianity. As you should know, women until recently were not allowed to own property, vote, and had a reduced legal status. Even today conservative Christian women and men opposed women's rights, the ERA and so forth. Moreover, its my understanding that Paul had issues with women. See Link .
This whole thing reminds me of a radio preacher I once heard in South Carolina. He was going on about English being our native tongue here in the USA and said, "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, its good enough for us!" Swear. See ya.
Congratulations on finding a new apartment and that it is so nice! Be well.
I forgot to add baking soda. Its a great natural cleanser, tooth cleaner, and works great to eat up household oders. Sprinkle on carpets and vacuum. Also, put a little in a paper cup in your refrigerator to keep it fresh. See ya!
You are welcome, Roy. I will post additional segments with short commentary over the next few days. Be well.
[quote]s/hoin/join/ Edit button vanished again.[/quote] Leauki, next time, post, then hit the refresh button. Be well.
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