[quote]KFC Kickin For Christ on Jul 26, 2008 He "paid" for the crime by doing time, lots of time. doing time, means to pay for his crime with his own time being given up. He did not do that. In that case we all do lots of time even if we didn't create a criminal act. He went on with life per usual just like the rest of us making sure he kept clean the rest of his time, but that doesn't mean he "paid" anything. It should be a life for a life (whether that means capitol punishment or time in pr
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[quote who="erathoniel" comment="33"]I think that though the man is still a criminal (unless it was self-defense), he is not evil simply for his actions, other than his innate sinful nature.[/quote] How could you say he has a "sinful nature" ? did you even read the entire article?
[quote who="RoyLevosh" comment="32"]Okay...1. If the man killed the other man in a fight in defense of his life or safety or in the defense of another's life or safety then yes, he would be considered a good man.2. If the man killed the other man while trying to commit another felony crime (i.e. robbery, burglary, sexual assault, etc.) against the other in a fight and, especially if he is not "sorry in the least," then no he is not a good man.3. If it was just a regular bar room variety type
[quote who="Texas Wahine" comment="31"]Yes, he could be a good man. I don't know his motivations or why he doesn't feel remorseful, but it could be that there is a genuinely valid reason for why he feels he was in the right. I would also say that in the situation where there is a fight, sometimes the outcome is bizarre. I have read stories of teens where one punched the other and the way the child who was punched fell killed him. Now the kid who struck the blow is a murderer, but all he did w
Lots of interesting opinions happening here, would sure like to see the other 200 Plus people that viewed this article to speak up.
Geeze I am simply asking for a simple opinion, YOUR OPINION, NOT SOCIETIES OPINION, NOT A LEGAL OPINION, NOT A RELIGIOUS OPINION1 YOUR PERSONAL LIFE OPINION. HOW YOU AS A MAN OR WOMAN FEEL ABOUT THE SUBJECT! Stop making this so damn complicated. your opinion is all I am asking for, how you feel about the subject with the facts presented. YOU! not your wife, or husband or mothers or father. YOURS!!!!
Sincce so many people are clamoring for more details I will add this. In the fight they were both unarmed, no weapons of any kind were used.
[quote who="SanChonino" comment="24"]So the fact that he has instilled respect for the law both G-ds and mans law in his children and has lived a life of no crime in any way for forty years in your eyes he is still a criminal?Of course he's still a criminal. Did he commit a crime? Then he is a criminal.But that doesn't mean that criminals are bad people. Was Rosa Parks a bad person for breaking segregation laws? No. She was simply a criminal. [/quote] Thank you for your opinion.
[quote who="Jythier" comment="23"]Who am I to judge anyone? [/quote] It's your own opinion, everyone has an opinion.
[quote who="RoyLevosh" comment="15"]This is all the info you are going to get, make YOUR JUDGEMENT BASED ON THAT.Nope. But who am I to judge anyway?(funny, but I say this very thing at work ALL the time: I AM NOT your judge.) [/quote] Come on Joe, let it fly!!! it's all hypothetical anyways. I just want opinions.
[[quote who="terpfan1980" comment="14"]Need more details. Why did the killing take place?Once I know that, I might be able to figure out if it was justifiable or not and that would impact upon my answer.[/quote] you are not going to get any more details that the article contains rereaed the article and make your judgement.
[quote who="InfoGeek" comment="13"]Obviously this is a personal question asked of the person that comments, one can only speak for ones self after all. OK, then, while he may be a good man in the eyes of many and me, nevertheless, he is in fact a criminal and 40 years of good living will not change that fact. IG [/quote] So the fact that he has instilled respect for the law both G-ds and mans law in his children and has lived a life of no crime in any way for forty
[quote who="CharlesCS" comment="7"]I know my history includes killing other men. I don't do it any more. And very much regret the fact that I did it then. Well, that was very disturbing to read but since I don't know you well enough or the whole story, I will keep my opinion to myself on this one.[/quote] He is talking WAR, Charles.
[quote who="Sodaiho" comment="6"]MM, I suspect we are as we do, rather than what we did. I know my history includes killing other men. I don't do it any more. And very much regret the fact that I did it then.Be well.[/quote] That's my feeling as well, none of us can undo anything we might have done.
[quote who="RoyLevosh" comment="5"]I suppose it would depend on the fight -did this man start it over something that could have been resolved some other way or was it self defense or what? 'mo info please! [/quote] This is all the info you are going to get, make YOUR JUDGEMENT BASED ON THAT.
[quote who="Dr Guy" comment="4"]yes [/quote] Short and sweet.
[quote who="InfoGeek" comment="3"]Your question is incomplete.... considered a good man to whom.If you refer to those who have been his neighbors for 40 years and do not know what he did, then they would consider him a good man.If you refer to the family of the man he killed, then no.If you refer to the police, then whle he may be a good man, he is still a criminal. Most criminals are good men, who made the wrong choice.... of coulse some are just twisted and scum.If you are askin
[quote]sounds like Moses.[/quote] Interesting reply, but it does not really answer the question.
I bet most of you that clicked on this thought this was going to be another G-d article or another in a long line of Jesus freak articles. WRONG on both counts. My question is really a simple one. Can a man kill another man in a fight and be considered a good man and citizen if this man has never broken any laws for 40 years since then? This man has raised a family, instilled in them a respect for G-ds law and mans law but is not sorry in the least for the killing.
Of all the stupid lawsuits I have heard of in my life this one is in the top 10.!
[quote]Much like the Global Cooling "crisis" a few decades ago, filled with "hard facts" and agreed upon with a "consensus" of scientists This global warming "crisis" will pass much the same way, just fade into obscurity with a whimper. I hate to disagree with you MM. this is why they have changed the name from global warming to global climate change. This way when we are in a natural cooling cycle like back in the 40’s and 70’s and in the warming part of the cycle in the 60&rsquo
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Much like the Global Cooling "crisis" a few decades ago, filled with "hard facts" and agreed upon with a "consensus" of scientists This global warming "crisis" will pass much the same way, just fade into obscurity with a whimper.
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