[quote]Then why did they invade SE Asia? China? Korea? [/quote] More ressource, less menace from the European imperial powers? "Asia for the Asians". It ended up being quite distorded in the end, but they sure felt treathened by the European powers.
[quote]but the fact that almost half of the population of the prisons in California are illegal immigrants clearly demonstrates that there is a large criminal element in the 20 million.[/quote] I really tried to find that "fact" over the net, and yet, the highest figure I could find was 25% Edit: And the majority of those were in prison for, guess what, violating immigration laws. Cities with higher % of illegal immigrants have lower crime rates.
[quote]But that's not what the Hungarian situation is about. Neither the conservatives nor the socialists are really for or against immigration in any extreme way.[/quote] Yhea, sorry for distracting the argument. anyway, someone knows what were the main issues involved in this election? Corruption?
[quote]I don't know what that means.[/quote] The latino immigration (legal or not) problem in the southern part of the USA. Much is said about the so-called high criminality among those aliens, and the fact that they steal job from the native workers. And off course, some politicians use the issue as a battlehorse.
[quote]It's a mixture of continental arrogance (immigrant stealing jobs is nonsense but a good excuse for one's own laziness) and misbehaviour of immigrants (but not of those who "steal jobs"). However, that's not where those right-wing parties recruit their followers.[/quote] You know, I am trying to put those words as if you were talking about the immigration issue in the USA. The worst part is, it's not that hard.
[quote]Again, the perception is not the reality. The Toledo war? Quakers the same as Catholics? Roger Williams love of Massachusetts? The Kansas Red Legs compassion for the Show me State? The State of Franklin's love fest with North Carolina?[/quote] And these are just as powerful and Grand-Scale as the Hundred Years Wars, the Seven Years war, the Napoleonic Wars, and about all other freaking conflicts that erupted across Europe. You have to admit, the USA had it easy, interna
[quote]But for the most part, people do not care. And if you have to interact with them, you can try English, but you get farther by knowing some Spanish.[/quote] But there is a difference of strenght at work. Compare the Latino population in north america to the english-speaking majority. And now, compare the french-speaking population to the english-speaking majority I think we can assume that our situation is a tad more desperate, and we have been aware of this for
[quote]No, Japan already had its resources. It just wanted to make sure it was the only big dog in the yard.[/quote] The so-called "ABCD" embargo was a disaster for their imports of raw material. It was practically forced them to either attack you, or surrender.
[quote](But all-in-all 83% for conservatives and social democrats is good news.)[/quote] Agreed. The danger there is the winning party to become arrogant and overly powerful. That always lead to corruption and abuse of their mandate. But I think the rise of right-wing parties in Europe is because of the increase number of immigrants, promoted by the economical elite, that clashes with the economical difficulties of the common worker (and thu, common voter), who feel robbed of
[quote]That's a very strange opinion considering most of your opinions tend to want to change this country in a way it will go against what this country was built on.[/quote] No. It goes against what YOU FEEL this country was built on. But this country was built around a lot of things that many people seems to have forgot, or have twisted, to fit reality. Liberals from San Fransisco as just as "American" as Conservatives from Dallas (did I picked a good conservative city?). they shape
[quote]Interesting, so this issue you defend with "isn't what the public wants" yet time and again it has proven the public did not want this recent Healthcare bill and you were in favor of it. Kinda funny how you change your mind about a situation when it suits you.[/quote] I wasn't really in favor of THAT healthcare reform. I was in favor of ANY healthcare reform, anything that would get you out of the status quo that has plagued your political climate for the past 20 years, and at
[quote]Everytime you agree with an issue that goes against the Constitution (which you tend to do) is ignoring what this country was built on.[/quote] But I don't disagree with that element of your constitution. I disagree about the fact to keep insisting while more than ennough documentation has already been provided.
[quote] We value and fight for English as first language not because of the visitors but because of those who live here and benefit from what this country has to offer and on top of that tehy want it in Spanish or Hatian or Portugues when they should be learning English if they plan on staying here and becoming citizens or at least benefiting from their stay.[/quote] But that is the very crux of our problem. People don't. People come living in Quebec and they learn english. Wh
[quote]Why wouldn't Germans and Frenchmen in America have the same problems with each other as Germans and Frenchmen in Europe?[/quote] Because they are somewhat homogeneously mixed in the big melting pot that is the USA, while in Europe, they are concentrated in regions. [quote]Yes, they were clever enough to do that[/quote] Nothing to do with cleverness. Everything to do with necessity . [quote]Everything is so simple if you forget bad blood.[
[quote]That's partially how I feel.[/quote] Why only partially? [quote]But as a Conservative, by choice not brain washing, I like the idea of having a channel that speaks to me, that provides more information about what I want. I consider myself smart enough to know when I am being "dupped" (as Obama put it) so I can decide what I like and what I don't.[/quote] I don't really believe people are conservative or liberal by brainwashing. However, there might be things tha
[quote]Cikomyr, that brings us back to how the Americans were simply smarter than the Europeans when it came to nation-building.[/quote] No, it brings us back to how the Americans states were all of the same generic origin and had little historical bad blood with each other. They united and form their supra-national entity with a self-defense outlook and economic cooperation. Everything is simply so different between the two. You had the right motives, you did not had any bad
[quote]Europe was united at least 2 times in history. During the Roman empire 2k years ago, and during Charlemagne half that ago. So it CAN be done. No one said it would be easy.[/quote] (I won't quote the Nazi and Napoleon examples, 'cause it's on another page) Yes. Because these kind of unification are so alike the U.S.'s. Washingtown conquered the 13 colonies damn straight, and he set up a powerful centralised ruling seat of power, just like Charlemagne and Rome.</p
To be honest, I am rather happy for those who has this idea. If there is a market for it, I say: GO. That's what good capitalism is about.
[quote]I don't go around pointing out how idiotic something in Canada is because it doesn't affect me in any way except when someone here wants to implement something from Canada that I don't agree with[/quote] But that's the thing. Things happening in the USA are affecting Canada in a way that things happening in the Canada doesn't affect the USA. When you sneeze, we catch a cold. (well, less so recently, as we are the #1 country that got out of the recession! :D ). But still
Oucb. my last post kinda went out of hand. Oh well. I guess it's the kind of thing I'd like people to understand a little more about my land. So if you ever visit Quebec, you'll have a much pleasant stay.
[quote]Giving in? How is this giving in? Wouldn't it be more like doing what the public wants? After all he did say he is doing what the American people want. You have yet to give a good enough reason for him to keep it private except for "because I said so" reasons.[/quote] Except that isn't what "the public" wants. This is what his political ennemies want. I haven't seen any massive public movement demanding to see his birth certificate. I mean, the Birthers are marginal in
[quote]_I_ am waiting for you to explain WHY the US and Europe cannot be compared.[/quote] Because one was built from scratch in 400 years. So you did not had any of the sociological problem inherited from a society that went through Dark Age. You developped your own problems, but you did not had the huge one Europe had. Also, American Union was created with a mindset of self-defense and organisational purpose. The European Union was created to avert any further bloodshed. You
[quote]From what I understand this document is not the original but a duplicate (legal duplicate) and people still have doubts. But these doubts would probably not exist if he did not try so hard to keep the original document hidden. Tell me Cikomyr, what good reason would he have to be so persistent about hiding the document? What harm would it cause to show it? Makes no sense to me, perhaps you have a good reason, and I don't mean "because he wants to" reasoning.[/quote] I think Bas
[quote]But we are forgetting about your point that looking at any European city would demonstrate that Americans have not accomplished more than Europeans when it comes to unity.[/quote] Well, I pretty much covered that in the 2nd part of my post, if you had bothered to read
[quote]That explains a lot - I love Canadians but I have never met a bigger bunch of ass holes than folks from Quebec.[/quote] And the mindless insults begin. Keep going, you'll soon join those who say I get a hard thinking about american soldiers getting killed. You don't know me, you don't know my people. You don't know the least thing about our history.
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