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[quote]Shall I call you a baby killer every time you post a stupid post like this one? if not, please do not try to be an idiot again, and either post facts (or even opinions) and lay off the slander and lies.[/quote]Funny how threatened you react to anything that I say whereas I couldn't care less about anything that you say. You really are funny. Go ahead and call me a baby killer, is that supposed to scare me or something? Yeah right, I'm shaking in my boots. Your beha

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[quote]That the forum doesn't work for you could be a problem at your hand. I'm currently experiencing the same - I can't reply to the last thread of the Kzinti Empire (when using IE as usual), but shifting to Firefox will solve that.[/quote]Ahh ... That particular problem is usually because someone has used MS Word to post some bogus html and that wrecks the page for IE but not FF. Usually Kryo can fix the thread but even if not when the thread gets to the next page then you're

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Anti-AGW = Pro-Tobacco The caption says it all. Every single one of the following right-wing "think tanks" that are heavily involved in the fight against AGW were and in some cases still are equally heavily involved in the fight against Anti-Tobacco legislation. Same people. Same lies. Smoke'em if you got'em. LSMFT http://www.

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[quote]As for the whole "the data shows warming"... one of the chief accusations is that of selectively terminating measuring stations showing cooling.[/quote]Even if this argument were correct (which it's not) then what about the two separate satellite records that both show warming, what about the physical evidence of plants whose habital zone has marched steadily north or animals whose northern migrations now start earlier and earlier and whose southern migrations start later. Th

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[quote]The burden of proof is on the proponent.[/quote]There are thousands of peer reviewed articles published in well respected scientific journals that support AGW. To me that is sufficient proof. For any other field of science such as the medical field that would be sufficient for even you. No one can prove anything to someone that simply denies all evidence and I have no desire to try. Believe what you want. I'm not arguing with you or trying to convince you because you are h

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[quote]No one needs to 'disprove' AGW[/quote]Just as no one needed to disprove that smoking is bad for you.

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[quote]Showing a graph whose trendline indicates a rise in temperature (reply 7 by mumble) cannot be used as evidence to contradict a claim that the data which was used to chart it has been falsified. Certainly if the data in the graph was legitimate then you would have had a point.[/quote]The source data in the graph that I posted in reply #7 is clearly stated to be the GISTEMP Land Ocean Index which is from the NASA Goddard Institute of Space Studies. For someone to doubt the validity

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Sorry about the momentary topic shift. But back to the main point of this thread. After participating in a number of these "discussions" I've concluded that there really is no point whatsoever in arguing with people that are willing to deny 30 years of documented warming. There is no argument that cannot be ignored, denied, obfuscated or outright lied about. It's the tactics of the tobacco industry all over again. There is no need to prove any claim, there is no need to disprove the m

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[quote]Oh, Hi Mumblefratz, been a while since I've seen you on the forums. I'm using the Impulse forums now. Is that where you're coming in?[/quote]No still mostly GalCiv2 although I will occasionally take a look at what the Ayn Rand crowd over on JU are up to. The problem is that the Off-topic forum is also visible there so that's were most of the rabid right wing is coming from although we do have our share of native wingnuts as well. I also still hang out at <a href="http://www.tyr

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The thing is that over the past 35 years Global Warming has progressed counter to the prevailing direction of the suns output. At this point we are at a very deep minimum of the sunspot cycle which has accounted for all the "global warming stopped in 1998 arguments" which of course it hasn't but that's another story. Anyway here's a graph from http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-gl

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Also if you take a look at the raw data you'll see that January 2010 was not only the warmest January ever, it was the 3rd warmest *month* ever following Feburary and April of 1998 in the UAH dataset and the 4th warmest *month* ever following Feburary, April and May of 1998 in the RSS dataset. Just to be painfully clear warmest in this context means deviation from the norm which is why a Janurary can in some sense be warmer than a July (in the northern hemisphere of course).

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[quote]Who are the other scientists that say that 01-2010 is the warmest January on record?[/quote]How about noted *skeptic* Roy Spencer. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/02/january-2010-uah-global-temperature-update-0-72-deg-c/ Note this same post is cross-posted on noted TV weatherman and knighted saint of the Anti-AGW crowd Anthony Watts' site. <a href="http://wa

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[quote] a 5th grader could see the 0.05°C was the range of the prediction not the prediction of 0.64°C and 0.69°C.[/quote]That's certainly how it seemed to me however I had wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and be able to look at the report directly just to make sure that the context validated this interpretation. After all from what he provided you pretty much need to conclude this from reading just the single sentence. Turns out downloading the IPCC AR4 report

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[quote]Times of London did an article, The BBC finally came clean and stated that they had the e-mails a month before it was posted on the web sent to them by a confidential source[/quote]Link? [quote]I concur with that sentiment. Keep it dear & abide by it. [/quote]Pot Kettle.

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[quote]argument of the idiots that you provided[/quote]You know it really isn't an absolute requirement to denigrate everyone that simply disagrees with you. The source article that I referenced provided links to peer reviewed works that document every one of his claims. You however call him an idiot without providing a single source other than your bald assertions. You should try providing a bit of evidence with your assertions if you wish to be taken seriously. [quote]I neve

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[quote]I love the fact that you use Wiki as your go to site. while I foolishly read all the actual reports.[/quote]Well I have to tip my hat to you. The reason that I use Wiki and not the actual reports is because downloading the actual reports is a pain in the fucking ass, pardon my french. How do you have the patience? So OK. I bit the bullet and started downloading. First I downloaded the AR4 Synthesis Report. 52 pages and they provide a link to down load the entire file, <

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I just happened to see that video on another site. Regretably, I know full well the kind of choice that people face at the end of their lives. Some folks are lucky and pretty much live their lives out in their own homes and quickly die without too much pain. Even in this case it's hard to say "not too much pain" because even though it may only be a couple of weeks of suffering there is no denying that there is suffering involved. With enough narcotics it can be tolerable but even in that case

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[quote]One more thing, the documents/ e-mails posted from East Anglia were not hacked from an outside source. They were sent to the BBC from someone on the inside, the person waited a month for the BBC to report it and then the person posted it on the web. The person knew that the information was explosive and wanted the world to know what was going on.[/quote]I had not heard this. Can you provide any links that document your assertion? I still fail to see any "smoking gun"

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[quote]Why then is Mars getting warmer?[/quote] [quote]all planets and moons are getting warmer at the same rate.[/quote] http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-other-planets-solar-system.htm The basis of this argument is that the sun must be causing global warming and in fact, warming throughout the solar system. There are several flaws in this line of thought. Firstly,

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[quote]WRONG (and a cop out, why am I not surprised?)[/quote]Did you read anything following the sentance you quoted? I did in fact "prove" you wrong. And your "proofs" are limited to childish name calling that are not worth a response. Rant all you want, you are beneath notice.

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[quote]So since you claim it, prove it. Show us how he never edited or audited any climate posts on Wiki.[/quote]Of course as an administrator he edited and audited climate posts on the Wiki. However I'm under no obligation to "prove" anything to you, just as you have "proven" nothing yourself other than to parrot accusations. Even if I wanted to take the time and effort to "prove" my assertions there is no proof that would be sufficient to change your mind. Nor is i

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[quote]That's a very head-in-the-sand approach, completely ignoring that 'what is said' by either might matter.[/quote]So if I was your patient and you gave me medical advice and I took your advice even though it was contrary to the information that I googled from the internet then that would qualify as having my head-in-the-sand? Because that's the argument you're making here.

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[quote]Weathermen are members of the climatological society[/quote]Not sure what climatological society you're talking about. But I will grant that being a weatherman does not automatically mean that someone has no basis for an expertise in climatology. I just maintain that in and of itself being a TV weatherman does not in any way require or demonstrate any particular expertise in climatology. In reality the only requirements to be a TV weatherman or woman is to be able to stand in f

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[quote]FOIA is not usually required for Propaganda and indoctrination sites[/quote]You would know.

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[quote]thanks for the link, at first glance it's pretty much exactly what I was looking for[/quote]You're welcome. AFAIK it's pretty much links to all the data that there is on the subject. And you didn't even have to fill out a FOIA request. :)