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It was separation not union that was going on there. He was separating from his mother. As a person who claims Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior, I find this almost strange coming from you because we are forever supposed to be in union with Jesus in all things; thought, word and action. At that moment, she was more united with Him than ever. The same is certainly true of His Blessed Mother Mary. Yes, He was dying and the natural consequence o

Reply to BEHOLD in Religion JoeUser Forums

I'm not saying this Lula. Are you thinking I am? No. I understand that you don't think Jesus at that moment gave us His most Blessed Mother in terms of universally being our spiritual mother.

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Excellent commentary bringing in how Our Lord's gesture in entrusting His Blessed Mother to the disciple's care is actually a lesson Jesus gives us on how to keep the 4th Commandment...it's the duty of children to take care of their parents. A couple of things that speak to the dignity of women and their important role in salvation history. V.25 mentions 2 other women also standing by the Cross, The Blessed VIrgin's sister, Mary, the wife of

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hahahah Lula you better re read what you just quoted....a word from God perhaps? Are ya listening? It's not what you quoted here. You mean to say....Phil 2:12? I'm laughing too. I had notes and quotes all over my desk as I was trying to put this comment together. Sometimes I take time to re-read and double check, but not this time....and you caught it, thanks, KFC. I really like some of your one line truisms... We can only work OUT wh

Reply to The Jewish Canon in Religion JoeUser Forums

What I have posted is from an article written by Steve Ray entitled, "The Council That Wasn’t" from This Rock Magazine, Sept. 2004. Many myths are believed not because they are true but simply because people want to believe them. But wishful thinking is a poor substitute for truth. It is always preferable to dig deep and discover the facts and not believe things only because you want them to be true. For instance, it is popular in some Protestant circles to claim that the

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Remember Ezra put the OT together and this was in the 445BC time period well before the Apocrypha was written. These are the 39 books accepted by the Jews. Not the 46 books accepted by the CC only much later on. Oh c'mon KFC!! Let's put it all in perspective and chronological order. The 46 Books of the Old Testament contained in the Catholic OT Canon are those contained in the Greek Spetuagint translation of the Hebrew Bible. This was the translation ma

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(Citizen)KFC Kickin For ChristMarch 10, 2007 18:20:45Reply #37 Another thought Lula. You said the Septuagint was written in 200BC correct? Well the story behind the Maccabees which is retold in the Apocryphal books of Maccabees I and II did not happen until 168BC. So how did that part of the Apocrypha come into play? If you're saying that the Septugint was accepted with 46 books in 200BC how can that be? Maccabees had not even come to be yet? I can

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You've not been successful here to prove your Apocrypha is on the same level as the other 39 books. 2 facts prove they are inspired. Jesus and the Apostles used and quoted from them, and they were included in the canon making it 46 Books as early 393AD. The fact that these particular 7 Books of the Old Testament are there...included... contained in and part of the Bible proves that they are on the same level, that is, inspired, as the other 39

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Didn't elevate any to be apostles, though. Odd, that. That's true and very significant. Good, too, in my opinion. Following that, since the bishops and prieshood are the Apostles successors, there are no woman priestesses in the CC and won't ever be although there is agitation for it. But that's not what Christ set up and therefore cannot be. Pope John Paul II infallibly declared that and the matter is closed. Women did have their special place

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You know, there's this nit I've got - just right here, I don't know if you can see it . . . but it's really bugging. Can you guys pick it? ha,ha, ha, ---this is funny, my first laugh of the day. I imagine it does seem like nit-picking to some; down right boring to others. KFC and I know what it's all about though...and I don't think I'm being presumptuous to say that we actually like discussing our differences....at least I do.

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LULAPILGRIM POSTS: Your interpretation of St.Luke 23:39-43 uses the penitent thief’s sudden recognition of Jesus to deny everything from baptism, to repentance, to works, to holiness as necessary to be saved and enter into Heaven. Even if granted that the penitent thief presents one instance of salvation by faith without works, the exception does not make the rule. I would also say that it is the thief, not Jesus, who initiates the conversation. Is that not works of sort? KFC POSTS

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KFC POSTS: This is what "Faith Alone" is all about. This criminal was saved by Faith. He didn't get down and do anything. He didn't get baptized first. He didn't perform more good deeds that would outweigh the bad ones. [quote]for none of us can be absolutely certain of our final perseverance. This relative uncertainty is a spur God gives to us to be vigilant; this vigilance in turn helps us progress in the work of our sanctification as Christians. <br/

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

Huh? You do know men piss through their uretha as well as cum, right? From what I understand, before the ejaculation occurs, the opening where the urine would pass is closed shut so there is virtually no chance of mixing the two. At the very beginning of arousal, there is also a clear seminal fluid that passes through which purifies the tube before the semem passes through it. Nature is simply marvelous for we are wonderfully made. Cactob

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Congratualtions! I wish you the best...and will advise to do good and be good while you're plugging away at the books.

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KFC PostS: Just show me where Christ, Peter, Paul or any other NT writers quoted from the Apocrypha which is what we started discussing. I think we have established and agree that from the time it was translated into the Greek around 200BC, the Septuagint OT Canon was used by all the Jews except the Palestinians who formed their own list based on their own criteria about 100 years after Christ. Have we an "Amen" on that???

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Well, technically the body parts DO fit not for reproduction of course, but pleasure wise yes. Is anal stimulation pleasurable to support homosexual relationships? Can the prostate be stimulated through anal as a source of pleasure just a coincidence or design? Is perhaps homosexuality simply a built-in population control? Can the anus accommodate a penis by coincidence or design? As for bacteria... good hygiene and the use of a condom can prevent the transfer of bact

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I mean, humans are still animals, incredibly smart and resourceful, but still an animal, part of nature. I don't see humans as animals at all. Human nature isn't the same as animal nature. Humans are totally distinct creatures and the latest scientific insights into the design of DNA prove that quite concusively.

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KFC POSTS: This second utterance on the cross was "Verily I say to you, Today shall you be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43 We looked at the two criminals that were on either side of him...... Once again we see two men, two reactions, two decisions and two destinies. Thank you, KFC for this good lesson on St.Luke 23:43. In addition to that here is something that St. Ambrose wrote. The episode of the 2 thieves invites us to admire the designs of Divine Providence. Both thieves

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KFC, I think one point that we should agree is that the whole idea of Jesus and the Apostles,especially St.Paul, quoting from the OT was to use the closest interpretation of what they were trying to teach at the moment of their teaching. What OT canon does the New Testament quote most often? Not the Hebrew Canon, since the majority of the New Testament was composed in Greek. The Scripture used for most Scripture quotations in the New Testament is the same used by the Ethiopian Jews ment

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Let's get things in perspective. Be as anti-gays as you like, but don't try and argue it's wrong because it's unnatural, because nigh-on everything humans have done since we first used tools has been unnatural. There's far more you can do to end unnatural acts than complain about gays on the internet. First---nothing I have said is "anti-gays", as you put it. I can distinguish between fostering respect for individuals and respect for lifestyles

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We kinda already covered that.... procreation wise, yes f/f m/m doesn't "fit". However, that doesn't mean those couples cant have a full, pleasurable, sexual relationship (oral, anal, masturbation, etc). There are plenty of wild/domestic animals that have shown homosexual behavior, and they aren't subjected to society like humans... shouldn't this SUPPORT, that homosexual behavior is natural? You ask, is homosexuality normal? I answered “no” it isn’t bas

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KFC---Please read the following from a Senior Protestant pastor about what he thinks of the value of using Greek and the translation and quotes from the NT using the OT Septuagint. The Value of New Testament Greek in Ministry An Informal Talk by Timothy B. Savage, Th.M., Ph.D., Senior Pastor of Camelback Bible Church - March 1999 (The following information was presented during an informal talk with Dr. Tim Savage. These paragr

Reply to Is homosexuality normal? in Religion JoeUser Forums

Yes, there is no concise definition of normal, what one person or group of people think is normal can be different then another group. The bible is not the end all be all source for defining normal, sure some things make sense, but not all. The same with your personal views, they may be accurate 80% of the time, but you cannot go by what you find sick/disgusting, you have to think through the behaviour and find who it is harming, if anyone, and are both partners c

Reply to Scooter Libby guilty - for now in Politics JoeUser Forums

Isn't this decision against Libby similiar to that of Martha Stewart? While she was initially charged and tried on one thing (stock fraud, I think), she was convicted and ended up doing time for lying to a jury.

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I see that the posting of the books of the Bible didn't come out in 2 columns as I had hoped. Instead of reposting, please note that each line contains 2 Books of the Bible.