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Then you go to the cross and say, when Jesus looked down at his mother he was symbolocally making her mother of us all. When in fact, it's not symbolic at all. I agree, it's not symbolic at all and when I said that I misspoke. Without going back and checking the post, I think I said that the Church interprets Jesus' words, "Behold, your mother", as having dual meanings. One--just as you said and the other in a "symbolic" sense, meaning tha

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This is a very interesting discussion, Gideon. KFC POSTS: We need to remember that Buddhism came out of Hinduism but unlike Hinduism Buddhism can point to a specific founder. I agree with KFC on this point. Buddhism began as a heresy within Hinduism in the sixth century BC. Hinduism taught the transmigration of souls that man is reincarnated in a series of lives. Many Hindu sects attempted to instruct devotees on how to escape this

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This is the reason I keep my eyes on the Tabernacle where the Blessed Sacrament is faithfully kept and my Faith in the promise of Christ that He will never abandon His Church. KFC POSTS: “...we are the tabernacle of God..... Christ in us.... Christ referred to himself as ...the bread of life. . It's only when he enters the tabernacle (the believer) that one realizes that indeed nothing else can satisfy.” Ahh, KFC, you want it every wh

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In the OT they would offer up "physical sacrifices" in the NT the Christians were to be a "living sacrifice" to God. KFC---What does this mean? What are you saying? Could you expound on this a bit further? Thanks.

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JILLUSER POSTS: I've been enjoying reading the responses I've gotten about whether or not we create out children and it got me thinking. If people believe that God creates babies and gives them to us, do they believe that inductions and planned C-sections are interfering with God's plan? If it's all God's doing, shouldn't it happen naturally? Although I didn't read the posts to which you are referring, I'm one of those people who believe that God created us and gave the command t

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The fact is none of this is clear. It's about blind belief. Belief isn't blind at all when it's based squarely on God's authentic Truths and none other. Belief gets blind or fuzzy when moral relativism or error gets fused in. This is the reason I keep my eyes on the Tabernacle where the Blessed Sacrament is faithfully kept and my Faith in the promise of Christ that He will never abandon His Church. Sure, others say that they have Him too bu

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"First, those people who do evil are not committed to the service of God, they are working against Him in satan's camp. They are deceived." Believing unquestioningly is a key component of being deceived. The reason I said what I said is based on this. In the world, there are 2 camps--believers and non-believers in God. When I say God, I mean He is a spiritual, substantial, personal being, infinite in intelligence, in will, and in all perfec

Reply to Easter isn't Easter without.... (you tell me) in Current Events JoeUser Forums

Historically, according to the calendar this time of year coming up is called Easter. Yet, some folks are trying to change that even moreso than has already been done. You older ones will remember this time of year that we got as school vacation time was called "Easter vacation". Now, it's called "spring break". Last week, some one in California town has decided that the word "Easter" should be expunged from all things preferring instead the Sprin

Reply to Hannity takes on clergy on contraception, sex scandals, more in Politics JoeUser Forums

Sort of like Sen John Kerry, right? I mean he "does" have the same views as Sean does on contraceptives. Yes, on contraception they are both acting in grand scandalous fashion.

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what's your beef with Jesus act of devotion having a more transcentental meaning---Mary's spritual motherhood to all the Church? It certainly doesn't interfere with having direct access to Jesus. It also reeks very strongly of the Queen of Heaven Worship in Elijah's day and the pagan worship of goddesses druing the Greco Roman times.[/quote] Catholics don’t worship the BVMary. We do, however, call her the Queen of Heaven because she is undoubete

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TERPFAN 1890 POSTS: Personally I'm cheering for Hannity. He is what some would call a reformed Catholic. Perhaps reformed is the wrong word, and for that I apologize. In anycase, he's not an absolutely stringent Catholic who blindly follows the teachings of the church even when he believes those teachings may be morally wrong. There's apparently been a raft of discussion in the blogging community about this issue, which I've apparently missed

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Well, there's been a great deal of evil committed in the service of God, aided by people who refused to question it. First, those people who do evil are not committed to the service of God, they are working against Him in satan's camp. They are deceived. On the converse, there has been a great deal of good done by people who read and believe the Bible and are committed to His service. Well, if some

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Just like when you guys say that "scripture" is fit to be used as instruction and a guide for life? Why? Why not? How did you learn that God is perfect...and what books, if any, do you read that support that?

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Jude was quoting a book that was very commonly read during his time. Jude didn't call it inspired but he did quote it. We see other such instances in scripture. Titus 1:12 comes to mind with Paul quoting a Cretian poet. Exactly. At the time before the Canon was settled, there was much apocryphal literature put forward as "Sacred Scripture". The Apocrypha of the OT included the Ethiopian Book of Enoch, the Fourth Book of Esdras, the Sybilline Oracles, th

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"Just the fact that the Apostle quoted from the books points that the part they quoted was correct and without error. How do you know that? I know that because St.Jude's letter was accepted as part of the canon of the BIble which I believe is the inspired Word of God and contains no errors whatsoever. St.Jude wrote his letter for a specific purpose which was to exhort the faithful to protect the faith delivered to them "once and for al

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Jesus was not speaking about Paul's writings, because Paul hadn't written them yet. The fact that they weren't bound together means you have no clue, whatsoever, as to what Paul meant by "scriptures". As has been shown, they cite work in the NT that we consider apocryphal. In this case, Both Jesus and St.Paul were speaking about the OT scriptures. It could have been the Hebrew Scriptures or the Septuagint that were both around, just not bound and looking

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While salvation is a free gift from God, Christ expects each one of us to do a generous share of prayer, sacrifice, penance, keeping His commandments, doing works of charity, and live the Faith that is within us from Baptism. [/quote] KFC POSTS: ok, stop right here. This is it in a nutshell. Yes, salvation is a gift. A GIFT!!! Do you buy a gift? Do you work for a gift? What do you do when a gift is offered to you? After you receive such a great unbeieveable gift like this

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As does the copy of Aurelius' Meditations I have on my desk. That doesn't mean it was intended to be an inerrant spiritual guide for people 2000 years later. To be honest, not even the Bible claims that... I also read daily Lenten meditations. They are meant for a different purpose than that of the Holy Bible. The Bible was intended to be and is an inerrant spiritual guide and has other good uses as well. The Chruch is a living society and the Bible grea

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LULAPILGRIM POSTS: that would depend on the condition or state of my soul. If I'm in a state of grace when I die, I will go to heaven, guaranteed. But if I die in the state of mortal or dealy sin (and those sins have been enumerated in Scripture) willful and unrepentant rebellion against God--I will go to hell, guaranteed. Paul said, "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to

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KFC POSTS: This is what the Catechism of the CC says (directly contradicts scripture) on the Octobri Mense of Pope Leo XIII and there is no mistake. Item 4 (5) With equal truth may it be also affirmed that, by the will of God, Mary is the INTERMEDIARY through whom is distributed unto us this immense treasure of mercies gathered by God, for mercy and truth were created by Jesus Christ. (6) Thus as no man goeth to the Father but by the Son, SO NO MAN GOETH TO CHRIST BUT BY HIS MOTHER.

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KFC POSTS: hey Lula, ya know I love ya right? I want to preface that before I tell you how screwy this interpretation sounds....not that I'm not familiar with it. You're basing it all on symbolism. That's the problem. You can make it be anything you chose. Yes, KFC, and I love you too....and that always goes without saying. From the get-go, you know I'm Catholic and I know you're a Fundamentalist Bible-only Christian and we both k

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LULAPILGRIM POSTS: what's your beef with Jesus act of devotion having a more transcentental meaning---Mary's spiritual motherhood to all the Church? It certainly doesn't interfere with having direct access to Jesus. KFC POSTS: It's not supported anywhere. You have to take that one text and read into it. If it were supported by the Apostles elswhere you'd have some weight but it's totally not supported. Well, KFC, I have to di

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KFC POSTS: We are saved by faith alone.......but our faith is never alone. We've been describing Faith, hope and love in kind of vague ways. Getting down to the nitty-gritty of it all we could ask the question: If you died today, would go to Heaven and if so, why? My answer is: that would depend on the condition or state of my soul. If I'm in a state of grace when I die, I will go to heaven, guaranteed. But if I die in t

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[quote]"1 Timothy 2:11-12 (King James Version) 8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a wo

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KFC POSTS: The 1891 Octobri Mese where this all comes from says you CANNOT get to Jesus but thru his mother. Could you send the link of the 1891 Octobri Mese or at least the quotation of it that says, "you CANNOT get to Jesus but thru his mother." I asked "How is the CC teaching that the Blessed Mother is the mother of the members of the Mystical Body of Christ, that I speak of "untrue" to Scripture?" KFC POSTS: It