[quote]So what you are saying when I get hit with missile barrage, because I don't come on the board and cry like a baby so it would be changed I am somehow supporting your argument that it is overpowered?[/quote] No. My point was that even you, the all-mighty Astax, seem to have problems countering missle barrage. That is what supports my argument. Not whether you cry like a baby for this or that reason. [quote]I may have been pissed in the heat of the momen
[quote who="Astax" reply="13" id="2127480"]Dude I had a game last night where a guy tried to missile barrage my fleet of illums, he couldnt even break shields lol. Guardian + shield regen totally coutners it. As a matter of fact it's easiest to coutner it with Advent. I almsot felt bad :/[/quote] 1) As I have stipulated numerous times, I haven't yet seen a way to snap my fingers and have shield guardians magically appear. Now, if you can show me how that happen
[quote]If he had not spammed a weak unit for the front lines in the first place and have used HIS MIND and kept an eye on the enemy fleet he could have won.[/quote] Illums are considered "weak units?" I find this hillarious. In the past I have been flamed and criticized for the audacity to fight illums with assailants and lrm. "That's a tier 3 unit!" people have screamed - it has more hit points than assailants or lrm, and fires with 3 beams instead of 1. Now f
[quote]One of these ways [to "counter" Marza/MB] was used by Reborn in a recent game we had. IT was simply not to rush in and take loses while my Marza was present. He defended his planet with a considerable force I didn't want to fight under his repair bay feild since he coudl ahve focused my Marza and kill it before it got to lvl 6. But he also wouldn't fight me at my own planet were my own repair feild would have prevented him from killing it and fleet would ahve torn his appart giving me
[quote]as i've said before, i have no issue with Missile Barrage being VERY GOOD. vaporizing 25 or 30 of your opponents frigates in 25 seconds is friggin awesome.[/quote] Yes it is. Again, the question I would ask is, "is this STILL too powerful for MB?" What other special ability on a cap will vaporize 25 or 30 frigates? I'm guessing someone will say "volatile nanites" or "cleansing brilliance," but to get even close to killing 25 or 30 frigs with those abilit
[quote]While this topic may focus on the Marza, I also believe the mothership and evacuator are generally out of line. There's just nothing out there with comparable abilities.[/quote] For a while I've thought that the nano-dissassembler on the egg was a little OP, and should be nerfed a little. Thing is, that might still be a "brainer," so I'd be a little careful about it. For instance, if that ability is nerfed a little, would it require a slight buff to some other abili
Actually I left myself for about a year, due to issues when the game first came out. About a year after I left I was pleasantly surprised to find out that the ridiculously overpowered "siege frigates of doom" had been nerfed pretty hard. Also, the phase jump inhibitor, which was a joke when the game came out, got buffed. So that's what brought be back to playing the game. There have been tons more tweaks, fixes, and balance changes as well. There is a recent ex
[quote]Copper is still pretty fancy, I say Tin[/quote] Copper is a metal with amazing uses and utility. While it doesn't get the publicity of a gold or silver, it is a fantastic metal. Tin it is!
[quote]I'll say it again. TEC needs something like it. [/quote] Say it all you want, it's still a ridiculous thing to say. [quote]They have no other outstanding CapShip abilities.[/quote] Nerfed MB can still be an outstanding ability, just no more outstanding than volatile nanites or similar. Look, it's just ridiculous to maintain that TEC deserves a ridiculously OP ability - something better than a superweapon, something that can (and will) take out an entire e
[quote]Make it sort of like a super-powered Radiation Bomb blast. Choose a ship and the entire area around it gets nailed with saturation fire high explosive missiles for a duration.[/quote] LOL, I proposed the same thing above before I ever saw your post. Good idea.
[quote]Okay, this ability has been around for ages. It is one of the only reasons that the TEC factions get a lot of online play.[/quote] Well THAT'S sad. And it also explains a lot! Here I've been stupid for like a year, asking people why there is so much TEC out there. You know what people always said? "It's the 'human' element, the 'human struggle' that I like." HA! LMFAO! Boy do I feel stupid now. I mean its like asking a guy why he
See this post: https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/337682 I generally agree with you, however I think I build far less capital ships than you do (only 1 per game, ha ha). The only cap that is automatically worth its weight in gold is the marza with the ridiculously OP missle barrage.
Granted, I don't have any suggestions of my own at this point on what should be done to missle barrage, but I think that most suggested nerfs here are actually too little. It's like bobucles said - you could nerf the everloving bejesus out of MB and it would STILL be a good ability. Has anyone come up with harder nerfs that would put MB on par with a cleansing brilliance or a volatile nanites or something? Isn't that what needs to happen? Why should a nerfed MB still
[quote who="Astax" reply="3" id="2125237"]I like option #2[/quote] I actually don't like option 2, because if everyone has outrageous fleet killing superspells on their caps, what do you even need fleets for?
[quote]Lol easily interruptable? Hahahahha.[/quote] Yeah, LOL. Don't you just love that? What really pisses me off about the statement more than anything else is that it presumes that I have the resources just laying there to build a second capship, and have it ready when his damn marza hits level 6. I mean, I've furiously thrown everything at this guy in this game, and he's thrown everything at me too. Neither of us have spare funds for jack crap.&nb
[quote]We weren't comparing it to Cleansing Brilliance as a defense of Missile Barrage. The exact opposite actually. Maybe you didn't read the posts closely enough...But seriously, if you don't want people giving clear examples to back you up then I can stop posting and trying to help your cause.[/quote] dolynick, my "cleansing brilliance" comment wasn't directed at you. I understood your point, and agreed with it. My comment was directed at about 10 other people who, in d
[quote]Wait you had a lot of illuminators, but you failed to kill marza? I see no problem here.[/quote] That's right Astax. I sent the illums to focus fire and kill the marza. Guess what happened? They all died. Now watch the bait and switch everybody, as I will now be attacked for the "stupidity" of trying to kill it instead of running away. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Interestingly, Astax, I think YOU are one of the "pros" in one of m
I can't believe people are trying to compare cleansing brilliance to MB, with a straight face no less. Do these people actually believe what they say, or are they saying it just to imagine the look on your face? I won't state why the comparison is ridiculous - it's absurd on the face of it. Now, back to the matter at hand. Just how is MB OP? Let me count the ways: 1) The range on that shit is HUGE, I mean freaking HUGE. 2) People say you can run
[quote]Most people who complain about the game needing to be balanced lose often. Otherwise they wouldn't complain[/quote] By the way, I lost 2 games before this game to "pro" rated players. Did I complain? No. Did I think that the game needed "rebalancing?" No. THEY BEAT ME STRAIGHT UP, FAIR AND SQUARE, PERIOD. So that pretty much blows your little contention right out of the water, doesn't it? Here's something to think about. M
[quote]A. If the game was completely balanced, then every side would be pretty much the same, with very little variation...[/quote] Nonsense. You are confusing symmetry with balance. [quote]B. If you can't meet him toe to toe withyour current ship mix, try adding different ships, and I don't know, not just spamming dozens of LRFs.[/quote] I did meet him toe to toe, and I beat him on the field of battle. I have a replay, and screenshots to prove it
[quote]Something needs to be outstanding. Why not that. [/quote] Because I'd rather someone beat my fleet because they actually BEAT MY FLEET, that's why. In this game, I beat this guy's fleet twice. Then up comes the marza, he presses a button, my fleet evaporates, and he laughs. Didn't outskill me. Didn't outstrat me. Didn't out-tactical me. Just pushed a button. Why anyone would want to "win" like that, or argue for the ability of someon
[quote]You also do not explain why people should lose their fleet like the OP because they did not immediately run away or did not have the means to interrupt someone pushing ONE button should be "balanced".[/quote] All this "it can be interrupted" (or countered) BS really cracks me up! My buddy just sent me a recording of a game from a few nights ago with PROS, and I just watched it. Guess what? Two of the pros in this game couldn't interrupt the 3rd pro's missle ba
[quote]To me something is unbalanced when it can win the game all by itself without any help and there is no way to defend against it.l[/quote] Then most things that have been changed in the game already would not be OP or imbalanced by your definition. For instance, the super siege frigs. You could defend against them by simply doing to your opponent what he was doing to you. You could defend against them in other ways too. It was still a ridiculous balance.&n
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