[quote]that is NOT scientifically proven. That's what we are being told to support this agenda. [/quote] Here , and also look at the end for: Hamer, et al. [quote]This isn't about dominance either this is about the masculine and feminine roles in the relationship. In my marriage there are times I'm the dominant one and at other's it's my wife. It rea
Also, founding fathers who were Deist: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Cornelius Harnett, Gouverneur Morris, and Hugh Williamson. James Madison, John Adams, possibly Alexander Hamilton, Ethan Allen and Thomas Paine
[quote]Here's a link that has a whole bunch more quotes from our founding "atheistic" fathers with footnotes attached. [/quote] KFC, see this: [quote]3. KFC, slow down and take a breath, alright? I doub it's being claimed that they were a bunch of Atheists, to the contrary. I personally am trying to say that - while the were indeed religious - the bulk, so far as i know, were Deist. That doesn't equat with Atheism. It's pretty much the antithesis of atheism, along with theism
[quote]AJ, I'm not speaking of just 'looks' but also relationally in their behavior. The fundamental aspect of their relationship mimics the heterosexual relationship. If it helps consider them as roles. One takes on the more masculine role and one takes on the more feminine role within their relationship. Are you saying that the dominant aspect is nature (ie genetic based) or nurture?[/quote] Not always actually, that's a bit of a misunderstand/"myth".
[quote]Jesus was Jewish. Olive skin. Dark eyes. Typical Jewish features. [/quote] Exactly...friggin' white Jesus. [e classic]:-|[/e] [quote]Where is that common ground? And, if other countries can embrace the "major" beliefs as acceptable in society, why can't we? What is "progressive" about stripping away any shred of what founded America and got us to this point?[/quote] I believe the common ground can be found somewhere at t
[quote]AldericJourdain get your panties out of a bunch... first of all i said that he was a prophet, so that means I AGREED with you that he was not a MESSIAH. because propthet and messiah are two different things. Secondly, no you should not accept their words, I know some hindus of indian descent living here in america and they tell me hindus are vegetarian because cows are sacred, when asked why not eat pork they have no explanation. The CORRECT response is that the hindus belei
[quote]Here we go again. JEFFERSON HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONSTITUTION. Yets he's the only one we talk about when we mention our FF being Deists (along with Franklin) or when we talk about Separation of Church & State.[/quote] 1. Wrong, Jefferson did have something to do with the Constitution. See here: "Although Thomas Jefferson was in France serving as United States minister when the Federal Constitution
[quote who="CharlesCS" reply="8" id="2161421"] Agreed, it does indeed. (OMG, that means we've agreed twice in the last half hour. Mark this day down, heh. That's the beauty of this country isn't it?[/quote] Yup, now lets get to work on Dem/Reps agreeing, rationally.
[quote]True, still makes a good point though.[/quote] Agreed, it does indeed. (OMG, that means we've agreed twice in the last half hour. Mark this day down, heh. ;p )
My bad Kingbee, I was reading Constitution, and thinking Declaration of Independence. I really must be tired today.
[quote]And that's where I cannot go (does not compute). It doesn't make any sense to me. I have known and know several gay couples. One thing I find confusing is their always seems to be the more masculine partner and a more feminine partner (whether male or female that resembles the hetero couples). Someone in these partners is contradicting their physical being whether it's their masculinity or femininity (gay men or women). [/quote] Alright, then lets
[quote who="taltamir" reply="12" id="2160722"] Hmm, I've been told by my Muslim acquaintances different. Muslim or ARAB? Muslims beleive that jesus was a PROPHET (not a messiah)... in islam there are three prophets: 1. Moses 2. Jesus 3. Muhamad. Each one "updates" the information... if an issue has been addressed by muhamad, then he is right no matter what the other two said, if muhamad never mentioned it, go by what jesus said,
[quote who="Adventure-Dude" reply="24" id="2160754"] Do you at least understand the concept of loving someone, wanting to be with that person, etc.? Yep I am happily married. [/quote] Good, now put yourself in the shoes of a gay man, and you love someone, as much as you do your wife. [quote]Miss CA and Miss NC may be beautiful but they come in a long second to my Mrs Universe (aka Mrs. AD). [/quote] As m
[quote]Yep still don't understand.[/quote] Do you at least understand the concept of loving someone, wanting to be with that person, etc.?
[quote]All Muslims are Messianic as they all believe that Jesus is the Messiah.[/quote] Hmm, I've been told by my Muslim acquaintances different. Also, can someone tell me why Jesus is portrayed as being white? Was it some ego trip by the early Church? It's just that according to my logic, and my reason - Jesus, being born in the middle east, in Israel, etc. would mean he was, if not of a significant dark skin tone (See: Black Jesus
[quote]I'll start this by stating again- I'm not Christian, but I recognize that most of the US is Christian. What is the culture of the US? Compare our country to, say, Japan. For Japan, I can give you some terms that describe them or their overall culture. Obviously, this is not true for every single person, but it is the majority and what is known as their "culture": 1) They speak Japanese 2) They wear Kimonos on special occasions 3) They have many types of mart
[quote]And I don't think it matters when it was added. The US government should not promote any religion or religions.[/quote] [quote]Why do you say that? There is nothing in the constitution that forbids it. Are you going to choose what is best for the rest of us?[/quote] If I may provide an answer: Because if the US government was to promote one religion or another, there stands the chance of that religion becoming too powerful. If human action is any indication, we're not t
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[quote]those who make claims such as this one by kfc prefer to ignore, rather than explain, how and/or why the authors and ratifiers of our constitution somehow managed to avoid using the word "god" in that document.[/quote] Actually, if I remember correctly, there was a reference or two of the word God; however, it is in their implying and use of words that they suggest a God other than the Christian God, per se. I made the case in another thread, I believe it was <a h
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[quote]I wonder how a guy can look at these beauties and still prefer another guy? I don't think I'll ever understand![/quote] A similar question could be asked by any gay guy, "How can you look at women with all these hunks?" It's all about preference and such. Think about it this way, your wife (or girl friend/whatever) - you were attracted to her right? No matter what, you knew you loved her, you wanted to be with her, you wanted to (fill in the blank). All with her
Addendum: 1. The last quote's source is here . 2. Sort of off topic/on topic: I find it interesting that there are those who bash liberlism to no end, but they fail to recognize that we owe a lot, if not all, of our nation's existance to, guess what, liberalism. Granted, it was a different form of liberalism as opposed to the modern movement, but it is
[quote]Or, let's look at our forefather's thoughts that they placed in the Declaration of Independence to see how long "God" has been in the History of the US: -"When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinio
[quote]So people should lose a contest because you didn't like the answer to a question you knew would upset you if not given the answer you wanted? Doesn't sound like a biased judge, seems more like payback, someone in a position to make others pay for some kind of suffering you went thru or are going thru. Why did the question have to be about gays? Why could it not be about something else that would not have such a painful reaction to the answer? Why should a small question be the defining
[quote]I'm not sure about religious persecution in China, because I didn't personally witness it. I have heard about it, but I can't verify if it's true or not.... that is why I'm not sure. So I disqualified myself from that particular area of knowledge (i.e. I didn't try or attempt to go to a place of worship (no interest) nor did I see any monks beaten on the streets). My wife (or as you say significant other) is not religious and has never witnessed it either, doesn't mean it never occurre
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