He never said he was not a Christian, he said that we're not a Christian nation. To me that sounds like a Christian who knows his facts. We're not a Christian nation, we're a multi-cultural, multi-religion/non-religion nation.
[quote]Alderic, As soon as I read Paladin's comment...I checked out my one dollar bill and can see 6 points on it. So calm down and look again. It's truly a six pointed star...[/quote] What is strange is that on all of mine there are five points, and in other sources I've read state that the star is five pointed.Maybe someone somewhere had a major glitch, but that's what I had to work with. [quote]In a quandry, they called in a consulta
[quote]Wonder how much of the world is losing sleep tonight, wondering if the US likes them or not. Dear diary the US likes me, they like me not, they like me, they really really like me. Here's a flash: they all like is our money, or what we can do for them and don't give a rats @ss about anything else. I bet the recent Obama/Clinton apology tour is making you giddy with joy. We'll see how much respect that gets us. North Korea didn't seem too impressed...what shall we do. [/quote] &
[quote]True. Besides on our currency, "In God we trust" is in our national anthem, The Star Spangled Banner" and is our national motto. Given all the other references to God, ie. the Declaration of Independence, references to the Creator, the carvings, symbols and images in national buildings including the Ten Commandments, it seems obvious, at least it does to me, that the word "God" in the motto, "In God we trust" means the one God, the Supreme, Self-existent, Eternal
[quote]no offense taken but you are right. Christ said you are either for me or against me. That's all there is to it. Anti- means "against" or "in place of."[/quote] That's logical fallacy, and silly to boot. [quote]sounds like you haven't met any Christians. You said your mother is a Christian. Does she do these things you're accusing Christians as doing? The Christians I know don't do these things. Do you know the diff between being tolerant of people
[quote]Yeah, I always vacation at battlefields. How unlucky can you get. Must have thought those soldiers they were shooting at were mountain goats or the terrorist camp was a bed and breakfast. Explain to me what reason would it be to anyones benefit to pick up someone for no reason whatsoever? So quick to believe. What is the first thing most every criminal says? I wasn't me, I didn't do it! We must really enjoy the expense of keeping these poor unfortunates clothed, sheltered and fed.<br /
[quote]What is the point of living if one does not have the power over ones’ own life?[/quote] Interesting thought. [quote]The process of election gives us a sense of control over our own lives. It’s an act of a high degree of responsibility, both for the conducting authority and the people who go to vote. A person votes in his individual capacity but the impact is felt over the larger section of the society.[/quote] I think that some, if not most
[quote who="Silver_and_Jade_Tears" reply="24" id="2142845"] But the US is supposed to be a state that promotes no particular religion, not atheism, not Christianity, not Judaism, and not Islam. While this is true, a lack of religion promotes atheism, does it not? At least, that is how the religious will see it.[/quote] A lack of a (national) religion doesn't necessarily promote atheism. I would think it promotes the freedom to search and choose what fits
[quote]No, I think we should use government force to discriminate against Jedis.[/quote] No thanks. [quote]ALDERIC POSTS: 10It is pretty much saying that we as a nation, and/or as a government trust in God. That's just not true, and that, in my opinion, is too damn close to favoring a specific religion. I agree.."In God we trust" means we are placing our government, our nation and it's people under His care. A very, very good thing in my view
[quote who="KFC Kickin For Christ" reply="7" id="2141920"]I can only imagine the reaction of say a few women in the shower room taking a shower and gabbing away and then the shock of seeing a man enter their shower room completely nude attempting to take a shower right next to them. This is a good way to get someone killed. We're going to be looking at a whole new bunch of crime scenes. If I were alone in that shower room and a man came in like that, I
[quote who="Nitro Cruiser" reply="3" id="2141037"] What if you don't trust in any god whatsoever? Give me your cash. [/quote] Hell no, I need to keep what I have! Capitalist! [e digicons]:D[/e] [e digicons]XD[/e] [e classic]:P[/e] ~Alderic
[quote who="Silver_and_Jade_Tears" reply="22" id="2140542"]I had a nice post all written up, and then JU kept giving me error messages, and erased it. I had responses for both Zoo and Alderic. Let's see if this one is deleted.[/quote] Yeah, I had some problems with JU as well; those damn dirty apes! LOL [quote]Alderic, the majority of America has morals influenced by religion. You and I may not, but we are in the minority,
[quote who="KFC Kickin For Christ" reply="18" id="2140453"] ...please, why do we have the freedom of/from religion/first amendment? it's freedom of religion....not freedom from. Big difference. [/quote] Yes it is, it is implied. Just as you have the right to practice your religion, I have the right to not practice any religion. Here it is in ful: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment
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[quote who="KFC Kickin For Christ" reply="16" id="2140380"] Our government is supposed to be secular, keep it that way. our government was never supposed to be secular. Where in the world did you get that from? Have you not been to DC and seen all the scripture plasted all over the monuments and government buildings? It's only a matter of time before that gets etched away as well. The Christians came here to get away from religious persecution and
[quote]Would the average American know this? No. People want it, or dont' want it, because to them it screams "religion." This is exactly what I mean... a lack of ability to think out of the box. This is representitive of our history, McCarthyism, and all. [/quote] The average American? It would depend on how educated they are, as well as how intelligent they are. If they're not educated well, or don't have the capacity to understand it - then no. I feel that most are b
[quote who="Zoologist03" reply="12" id="2140201"] It's torture when you don't get sliced bananas in your cornflakes, right? Being coddled in a tropical paradise is the pits I was thinking more like razor blading people's genitals. ~Zoo[/quote] :Shudders: Oooooouch! [quote]It's torture when you don't get sliced bananas in your cornflakes, right? Being coddled in a tropical paradise is the pits (I've been there). Where your conc
[quote]I think it should stay. And I think newer dollar notes should claim a belief in all Hindu gods, witches, and smurfs until all religions have been propagated by the currency except the Jedi myth. I hate the Jedis and want my government to discriminate against them on the basis of their religion.[/quote] Hey now, the Jedi have it right. ^_^ LOL
[quote who="Silver_and_Jade_Tears" reply="8" id="2140191"]This is taking it literally. And even if there are people that don't believe in anything, they usually believe in themselves. If they had any imagination, they could regard it as a trust in themselves. To take offense at something like this is like taking offense because someone's neighbor has a garden gnome in their front yard. Sure, it may be obnoxious in their mind, but trying to force the
[quote]What if you don't trust in any god whatsoever? You're implying that everyone believes in something. It's also very clearly Christian. It doesn't say "In a god" it says "God" with a capital G. Only Christians say/write that in English. Jews usually don't spell out the name of God...so you'd get G-d instead. As for the issue at hand...I don't give a damn what's on the money as long as I can buy things with it. It can be Satan sodomizing a moose and I'd still put it in m
To be fair, I'll admit my leaninsg: I'm agnostic, leaning toward the likelyhood that there is no God like being. That being said, the phrase was brought about only because of the increased religious sentiment during the Civil War, against better judgement in my opinion. Then during the goold ol' communist scare during the 50's, it became law. he very concept of it being our national motto, is a joke, it makes me sick. A motto is supposed to stand for what our country is, and I'm sorry
[quote]your experience was that they have doctorate degress? your experience is that they know more about medicine than real doctors? your experience that they have to study harder than a real doctor? Contrary to liberal propaganda, my opinions are not "my experiences". It is possible to have real facts and real objectivity. You keep on saying "experiences" in order to avoid answering any of the facts involved. You personally said that they have to study harder than M.D... It is a
[quote]I admit, I know nothing of Flew other than reading this article and so based on it, I 've got to disagree with your assessment....for what Flew writes in his book indicates otherwise...[/quote] I've been a big fan of Flew for years, so - not to sound arrogant - I guess I would the expert here. I'm not entirely certain, but based on my reading of his works and so on, I feel I've got a good grasp. However, I'll conced that I am not the man himself, so I could be wr
[quote]Well that's a good thing. But I wouldn't discount what she's saying about the spiritual because she may very well be onto something. Of course I believe she is. I have three sons. Two have followed their mom's advice after playing the independant game for a while. They are both college educated and on their own and both have a strong faith in God today. The third one is just like you. So I know where you're mother's heart is. My gut tells me, that God's n
[quote]so basically YOU had a case of a severe misalignment that doctors said was too dangerous to try aligning, you went to a chiropracter who aligned you anyways without regard for danger, and you got lucky and it helped instead of crippling you. congratulations, but you getting lucky during a case of malpractice does not make them real doctors.[/quote] I was just saying that my experience with them has been different, hence my inclination toward them, versus against them. &
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