[quote]17.2% - The unemployment rate in 1939, after 8 years of The New Deal.[/quote]That's because there was so much more employable and dynamically in transit. TVA finishes, for instance, electricians move south, kerosene manufactureres close, etc.
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[quote]I think one of the first things that will change as soon as taxes go up is that JU will stop being a free site other than for people I decide to give free premium accounts.[/quote] May I suggest you claim us lefties as charity?
[quote]Not too becoming[/quote] Yes, the fate of punditry; at least Fox throws in milquetoast Colmes whereas MSNBC throws in Maddow as a double jeopardy spin off of Olbermann. [quote]And there's no equivalent to Chris "I love Obama" Mathews on Fox.[/quote]True, since Hannity exceeds him in daring negativity--despite Colmes who's just a prop or token just as Beck is CNN's tokenism.
[quote]let's give the man a chance ... and if he proposes something that we thinkk is wrong we all should speak and let our views known to him... he said he would listen ..let's hold him to that promise.[/quote]Admirable, but your thinking out loud on this site will fall on deaf ears.
[quote]Yes, and better to have it on the democrats - who preach destruction, than on the republicans that only enact it?[/quote]Ah, Doc's wisdom has returned!
[quote]but then again, just because you're paranoid that doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya, lol.[/quote] Thanks for yielding that much. Speaking of paranoia, there is no other institution that epitomizes this syndrome than wall street.
[quote]However investors etc. exist to make money, not throw it away [/quote] Another school of thought is to work toward the bottom in order to buy low.
[quote]It's really hard to have a decent debate if you can't handle opposition.[/quote] I'm no loony lefty but I do take issue when dialogue is based on loony premises. Taxes--even Adam Smit admitted--is based on the ability to pay for general services and governance for all.
The homeownership society began in the late seventies[CRA-Community Reinvestment Act] which was simply to prevent lenders from arbitrarily "red-lining" [excluding] minorities from loans to erase the mindset that lending to minorities is too risky. If lenders used the standard critera for lending there wouldn't be this mess.
Is Wall Street's post election down trend really attributed to more bad news on unemployment or are they venting a vicious caveat to Obama? [e digicons]:rolleyes:[/e]
[quote]Fox in reverse? [/quote] MsNBC fair and unbalanced. [quote]And Ben Affleck nailed Olbermann on SNL over the weekend.[/quote]Absolutely--I loved it.
Yes, as I said the right never engages in divisiveness, only noble disagreement: only dems engage in class warfare because they dare storm the coffers of the super rich, who the innocent darlings "earned" every penny even those who helped them accumulate wealth worked their asses off; once one exits small town America he is grabbed up by unAmerican urbanites, etc.
[quote]And then the question becomes why was it leant to the wrong people.[/quote]The question of leverage is that you don't lend money period when the lender has no reserves. The answer is regulation.
[quote]That's why it's better to keep the government small,[/quote] Are you sure you don't mean keep the gov divided? [quote]I will most likely ratchet up my giving to specific charities that I believe in. Doing this will greating reduce my taxable income. [/quote]Precisely the FDR strategy in raising the margin to 90%. Most philanthropy originated then.
[quote]Tax avoidance is practiced by everyone. Or do you not take an exemption for yourself? you do? *Shock* You are acting like a rich person! Where is your patriotism! (Biden) Where is your Compassion? (Obama).[/quote] Like I said you're going off the edge. Of course, as long as their are loopholes and shelters everyone will act on them. TIP: stop crying about taxes on dividends and capital gains and buy municipals. I'm not saying this.[quote]As if they somehow don't do
[quote]There's that subjective "f" word again.[/quote]Jeez, what's bugging you?--out of character.
[quote]America has chosen to go the route of wanting to the government to take care of their lives, and this election will be the new beginning of the next nanny state where people won't have to worry about anything....the government will be there to help you out.[/quote] Thanks but no thanks.
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[quote]The fact that you're not willing to do so just shows that this is a misrepresentation of Obama's plans.[/quote] Obviously, you didn't get the tongue-in cheek. I'm with you.
[quote]There was no hate of clinton.[/quote] Oh, no you can't be saying this!--cheez![quote]And you can demonstrate this?[/quote]For starters those from small towns are pro-American, how about an eight year old palling around withe terrorists. The rhetorical question who is the real Obama as though he's just a smart ass black brat that clings to the good reverend's stormy rhetoric.
[quote]That is your inherant mistake about American liberals. To them, your money is their money.[/quote]Doc, you're getting as erratic as Palin and McCain.
[quote]Just shut up and vote already! You have as much say as I do. I think we should all have our say and then be supportive and watchful of whatever government we end up with[/quote] You're not being fair, Jill. You commented on my tongue in cheek acrostic in response to CharlesCS rather than my more serious on
Let’s face up to fact, despite the current financial crisis, this country is a nation of consumers and to regain its lifestyle must continue to spend. Still, there is such a thing as moderation in pursuit of happiness. Oh, the wealthy must still have their car museums and mansions; the slightly lower scale their spacious homes and semi-private neighborhoods, together with flying first class to vacation lands or more moderate family trips via super SUVs to a resort, ranch
[quote]Yes, look at what the interest is on the first year payments. [/quote]Well, I guess we're back to square one--rent with an option to buy.
[quote] I think that Reagan made his own luck. And yes, Volcker sure helped him. But Volcker was there for Carter - he just did not know how to do things right.[/quote] Wow, and you once accused me of lionizing FDR!