Humm, I have done extensive work in thermodynamics, heat transfer and fluid flow, nuclear theory and physics and mathematics ... but I can derive little explanatory information about 911 from these experiences. We had janitors working for us too you know... You haven’t flaunted anything yet besides your ego so if that is all you have it’s no wonder that’s all you talk about. Well, we didn't get very far on this one and I see no reason to expect any real change so
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Daiwa ... so in your cryptic way you are telling me that you do believe the USG and their storyline ... and you can do this with a straight face I suppose. It is difficult to back up your comments when you don't answer the questions nor do you offer anything at all to the conversation that is meaningful. You mostly j
Charles, sorry I must have gotten into something else and forgot this thread. I am no closer to solving this predicament now than I was then sorry to say. It is difficult at best to drift through all the biases and misrepresentations to acquire some semblance of the truth. I refuse to believe that all the people we have been electing were closet scoundrels … so it must be the jobs or the system or both. Truth be told, it hasn’t made much of a difference who we elected for some ti
[quote quoting="post"] I don’t have a problem with atheists — each to his own comfort level — nonetheless, it is ridiculous for one of that inclination to get rattled to the extent that others of belief are denied their comfort. Atheism by definition is free from religion. Theists are free to believe as they see fit; atheists should look upon these " misguided" as pathetic but have the right to the "wrong" path. If, however, atheist take on the passio
In answer to your question Lula, NO ... Catholics are not the only ones that may go to Heaven ... were it real. As a matter of fact, I can think of no hell worse than spending 'eternity' surrounded by nothing besides Catholics, call it what you will. The question has never been about my believing in the supernatural as this is impossible with a sound mind. The question is "Why do you refute the sciences which can be proved accurate?” It is one thing to 'just' belie
The whole point of this clip was to provide food for thought to help correct some of the misinformation running amuck. Regardless of what any of us think happened on 911, the airplanes were not enough impetus on their own to cause events to unfold as they did as the government version states. And technically, we do not have the explosive technology to do it either as the worst conspiracy nuts think … so something else had to come into play to get us from pre-911 to post-911 … th
Daiwa, well I am an engineer so maybe you could expound a little more here for our benefit? Maybe you should listen more closely (to an engineer) instead of using the blanket credibility denial ploy you like to use. Nitro Cruiser, YouTube is what it is ... but maybe you forgot the books she wrote and her academic achievements ... she is no 'Michael Moore' for sure ... but you treat her with just as little respect. This says a lot more about you than it does her. And what show
I guess torture is ok then as long as there is what ... justification for it? I expected a lot more here too!
Well, here are some things that should be considered that has little to do with conspiracies ... it has to do with empirical data (evidence) and a need to explain the impossible without knowing all the details. There is plenty of time to speculate later. [video]http://youtu.be/GGsuzNmfdOI[/video]
Man, you don't start with easy ones do you, hehehe. I am from the doubters’ class myself ... but a great man in my opinion, Noam Chomsky thinks otherwise so I am trying to rethink this out myself. I was not doubtful of GW; I was doubtful on how influential the human element was … and I still have my doubts … but am working on it. I’ll be back when I watch more of the clips (on 3 now). [video]http://youtu.be/UUmwy0VTnqM[/video]
Smoothseas, If logic, common sense or proof were to be counted on here this discussion would not be taking place. The RCC has to have its enemies to function so they have made the whole world their enemy with their pompous attitudes and unmatched superiority over everyone else on the planet. It might be one thing if Christianity vs. science was the theme … but it is not. The bulk of the problems are religion vs. religion and sect vs. sect as science doesn’t pick sides … it
Hahaha Lula ... I was going to put that in myself but it was windy enough, hehehe. Have a happy thanksgiving too. By the way, did God make male and female saber tooth tigers too ... just wondering? What does "an eternity" with God actually mean anyway?
Lula take it easy on me ok, hahaha … you are right, sorry. Here we stand at the crossroads between reality and the supernatural one more time. It is this simple; I ruled out God and am left with two options, little green men or we just managed to bump and grind our way here over hundreds of millions of years. I choose the later and it is called evolution. You know there is a lot of scientific and archeological information available and we are learning more all the time. I of course am
Hello Chuck: I don’t really assume much of anything as you’ll see and I know why religious folk believe what they do … I just don’t understand it is all. There is no burden of proof on me here and I live under sufferance, the Catholic word “atheist” because the RCC has to have its enemies categorized. I opened this discussion because I have asked these questions before and was not taken seriously … just as you didn’t. The problem with these ty
Well Mother always used to say “the proof is in the pudding” and that is how I see Religion in any form. So, if the Catholic Church (the only Church of Christ?) has been unable to prove their elevation of Jesus to God status in over two thousand years … what in the world are you guys going to prove now? Absolutely nothing is what but that is ok... I finally figured this out. Logic will not even dent your armor as well we know and pr
[quote who="ArturoThomas" reply="7" id="3026836"]Reply #7 ArturoThomas[/quote]... the great JuJu at the bottom of the sea, hahaha, I like that. Logic will not dent their armour and proof is meaningless to people who don't need any proof themselves, hehehe.
[quote who="Dr Guy" reply="1" id="2997607"]Their "non-faith" is a faith. Since the existence of God is unproven and the non-existence is also non-proven[/quote]I think you are just buying into a false premise here Doc. If nothing is proven to exist … then there is no burden of proof to consider beyond that point. Only an idiot would even attempt to try and disprove something that wasn’t proven to exist in the first place ... Welcome to the illogical world of religion, hahaha &hel
Lula, you have to be joking … you want to discuss evolution or is this just … Evolution Not 1.01? If you are going to try and disprove evolution as Mr. Wells does, you need to be prepared to discuss the time periods and frames that would be necessary for you to prove such things could not happen … are you prepared … or is this just another Catholic write off? “Icons of Evolution” is a book by the int
The RCC Inc. was built on moral and religious fraud and continues to be contaminated by materialism and financial gain to present. Been looking into Martin Luther and detected a sour note from Lula, hehehe. Got to love Martin though; “… The RCC may throw you out, but that has no bearing on your relations with God”, hehehe. I am going to hate myself, but I am going to go to the RCC encyclopedia (misnomer that) and see what they think of Mr. Luther … <a href="h
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="28" id="3025369"]I have asked this question before of other atheists and one gal said our sense of right and wrong came by way of evolution but upon further questioning, she clammed up, and would not/could not explain her answer any further.[/quote]She was exactly right Lula. Where do the animals get their instincts for survival and procreation from since they don't have your one God to do their thinking for them like you do? Evolution is the only answer. A
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="10" id="3022304"]"The world" hates the CC and Catholicism for the very reason they hated Christ before they hated His Church.[/quote]One last try here. The only parts of the world that hate the RCC are the ones that have had to deal with their kind of justice. During this time period, Jesus was an unknown on any kind of world scale for goodness sake girl, these people didn't even know there was a whole world and the whole world certainly didn't know abo
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="10" id="3022304"]"The world" hates the CC and Catholicism for the very reason they hated Christ before they hated His Church.[/quote]Lula, this silly statement was yours not mine??? You try to pull this switch quite often you know. I didn’t understand it then and I still don't now, but I have come to the conclusion that none of your RCC nonsense holds water. And when was this turn of the first century poll taken on which you can blame the whole world
Lula the word Catholic doesn’t appear anywhere in the Bible. It was not even mentioned for many years after the NT was compiled by who else … The Catholic Church (RCC wasn’t in existence then), but what are a few facts against superstition? Apostles, that’s a Catholic thing in the NT, right? This is the book compiled by Catholics for Catholics with just their own council … come on here; you guys just compile yourself into the role of “God incarnate”
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="20" id="3024814"]Reply #20 lulapilgrim[/quote]Lula, I watched the clip but there was nothing substantive in it. All Mr. Voris does throughout is pander to us mere people on how our belief in God will explain everything in the universe to us (so easy, no school) … and that knowledge as foreordained in your myths by the significance of the “Tree of Knowledge”, is the only thing in the world that can fight superstitions and
PS- I forgot to mention F.E.A.R. in all its versions too.