It seems I take some things for granted and I suppose we all do at times. For instance, it would never even occur to me to question how the Muslim world would react ... at least openly. From the perspective of protection and/or hindrance … many throughout the Middle East helped both before and after 911. I don’t think Russia or China could have accomplished what was … without help and I am as certain as one can be that bin Laden couldn’t either? Call it an educated s
Before you start (continue) our discussions on moral issues, we first have to decide ‘how we decide’. It is evident when we don’t … we have chats like we have been having … useless for accomplishing anything constructive. Do we decide right and wrong based on majority opinion, based on what Congress thinks, based on what Saddam Husain thinks or what you or I think or what you think your God thinks? This creationism vs. evolution is central to our ability to tel
[quote who="myfist0" reply="6" id="3039330"]I had a pet rabbit that would beat up my 25 pound cat and that cat scared big dogs.[/quote]Hahaha, I had two 'ferocious' black and white cats that were the terror of the neighborhood. Many times I (LMAO) watched these ruffians chasing one dog or another out of the general vicinity of their kingdom, hahaha.
[quote who="Satrhan" reply="540" id="3039148"]Also, you might want to take a look at Gnosticism, a large branch of Christianity that survived until somewhere in the Middle Ages. Your beloved catholic church brutally suppressed this branch, killing thousands.[/quote]You can get away with teasing Lula ... but you better be careful if you try slamming the RCC, hahaha. Lula is not looking for anything because she believes she knows well ... everything there is to know. Most normal people have lit
Sinperium, hello again! As you didn’t single out anyone I thought I would chime in. What are likeminded people supposed to chat about … what ails them or what doesn’t? In either case, it will disparage the believers. I don’t know of any requirement to give someone the benefit of the doubt (to anyone) … just because they believe in something and especially when they admit they cannot prove any of it at all. As I said before, I could care less what Christians, Mu
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="386" id="3038359"]Not everything. We are dealing with putting together a series of events and facts (while trying to weed out the misinformation), to see how they may or may not relate to each other. I would call that theory.[/quote]All I said was they couldn't have done it alone ... theory my arse, hahaha. Obviously then you do believe they designed, engineered, paid for and executed the plan almost flawlessly (3 out of 4) without assistance ... s
Electricity: Well if you really want to discuss this (hahaha), you should prepare yourself by learning some terminology and concepts that are probably not in the Bible, sorry. Try these for starters: Electrical phenomena in nature, Basic electric circuits, basic electromagnetism, electric potentials, electric fields, electric currents, and electric charges. You also might want to brush up on your nuclear science as in atomic structure, molecules, electrons, protons, neutrons for starters ther
Look at the question again … the drivel comment was directed at my own comment since I assume everything I have to say is drivel to you.[quote who="BoobzTwo" reply="56" id="3037469"]Lula, evil as used here is anything that opposes Catholic dogma, now or anytime in the past … wouldn’t you agree?[/quote]All you had to do is agree? [quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="59" id="3038513"]Evil exists and the first thing to understand about evil (sin) is that it opposes God and His com
DrJBHL … I liked that definition! “How to create a whole bunch of cool stuff out of nothing” without the use of magic or mysticism … all in one sentence, hahaha. I had to cross out a couple of words though, sorry. Atheism defined: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and the nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch
Lula, better hit the science books again, you seem to be falling behind. While there, you might want to review “evolution” too.You may not know what electricity or energy is (hahaha) but that is only because it isn’t described in minute detail in your book of books like the rest of our world history hehehe, is all. You like to use the term “fully understood” as if it means anything … it doesn’t in the c
[quote who="Lord Xia" reply="3" id="3038566"]I have a few things to say about this debate:[/quote]Lord Xia, I only counted two things, hahaha ... cat got your tongue, or just a brain fart, hehehe.
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="384" id="3038291"]You posted a list of things that you cannot explain about the way in the buildings fell.[/quote]Is this what you have been trying to tell me here with your oil tales and 'the Muslims deserve what they got' nonsense. No wonder I was confused? My list as you call it was in fact a listing of the highlights as presented by Dr. Judy Wood in the clip in question. All I asked is what was farfetched about it.[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="384"
Hello myfist0 long time no see. I do not expect much in the way of responses here from the flock anyway although, if they were actually serious, I would think they would try to find the truth instead of pretending they already know it. And all the while they are trying to obfuscate the actual research and the sciences. “All you have to do is believe” … sounds like a line out of “Peter Pan”, hehehe.
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="382" id="3038243"]Your theory that the questions you cannot answer about 9/11 can be answered by what actions followed.[/quote]As seems to be the case here for us ... I made no mention of a theory. I made no mention of changing your mind. I made no mention that my "unanswered questions" (and there are not too many left now) concerning the war in Iraq could be answered by what actions followed (whatever that means). All I said is the motive for going to war
You tell me who is out of touch with reality here; the theory of evolution scientifically backed or the creation of everything out of nothing which is backed by nothing. Maybe the word reality needs to be addressed better, who knows. What is the purpose for animal existence if not to peruse life to its fullest? How do you fulfill anything if you think you are starting out with all the correct answers to … well everything … it all seems so pointless from a religious perspective.
Smoothseas, what theory of mine is it that you do not accept? I don't remember posting anything besides my expressed personal opinions ... what theory indeed? We seem to disagree on much in this thread but I still think we are comparing apples and oranges and that never works. As an example, try talking to Lula about the faults of the RCC … futility in the making … progress zero. If we don’t get on the same page here somehow … that is about all the progress we a
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="117" id="3037775"]Divine Faith (aka true Religion), truth and true science. How are they connected?[/quote]Simply stated, they aren’t connected at all. Why is this so difficult for you? Science is based on facts as best we know and understand them ... and religion is based on faith and belief, not on science at all. Why is that you say; Well, there was no such thing as science or education for that matter back when your books were being compiled from folk
Lula, are you sure this drivel is the best you could pick from my comment??? Defining evil ... that’s it? You jump on meaningless things with the hopes of avoiding the actual issues. You are all about camouflage and it is all superficial at best. This is exactly how you try to control the scope of a conversation ... I would call it damage control myself ... so I am going to try and chat with small comments … that should make it more difficult for you to direct traffic away from t
Who said anything about our best interest ... besides you? You do know the difference between right and wrong ... so what does going to war with 'our best interests' in mind have to do with the good and bad if it? “ Do unto others as you would have others do unto you ” and “ an eye for an eye ” takes on the same meaning here ... and they shouldn't. So, it is not abou
Dr. Michael Behe’s example of Mt. Rushmore was particularly humorous. All he did was shift the emphasis to man’s enhancements and use that as some kind of useful example. The question should have been how the mountain got there to be carved by man … not what man did afterwards? Piss pour example if you ask me and yet these guys see “Mt. Rushmore’s” in most cellular activity, well wasn’t that a result of man … not anything more intelligent, hah
Lula, my dog is alive and well and though we are soul mates hahaha ... he doesn't really have a soul either. You want to talk principles … I do not need to find the answers to all the mysteries of the universe … all I feel obligated to do is just look for what answers my understanding and personal knowledge can uncover and comprehend. Why would anyone try to “create life” in some mystical manor when we all know how this is done. Worked for my dog … and it
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="376" id="3037527"]and sometimes those consequences include going to war to increase oil supplies.[/quote]So now we see what you are concerned with. And when we steal everyone’s oil … what do we do next? There may actually be more than a couple of reasons to go to war ... but this is not one of them. How do you think Japan justified attacking the USA ... because we cut off their oil supply ... were they just too? Since when do the needs of the USG su
No Lula, it is no comfort at all. If I had a soul I would know it just like any other cancer in my body. All I have is this old rundown body of mine and I much prefer to be related to a monkey thank you very much. You are right though ... none of the rest is disheartening to me for my own reasons of course, not yours.
I don't know about anyone else here, but my concerns are for the people of the US ... not the USG, sorry. Whoever said anything about looking for the 'truly evil’? Is this one of those sweet deals where a little evil is ok just as long as it doesn’t become 'truly evil’? I wonder how this evil scale works and who controls it … folks just want to know? So we have reason to go to war … because Saddam didn’t give his people enough to eat???
Flakey101 ... excellent point, hahaha! When I was young I used to have a crush for Thor ... maybe he can make a comeback. It is amazing where the mind could wander if there was no need to prove something exists or could ever have existed ... is it all in the mind then … naw, I wouldn't be this cruel to myself, hehehe. Never figured out what the Doc meant by atheist core values??? Atheist do not believe in any god … no more and no less. If that qualifies as a “way of li
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