My pilot is a professional also you know …? I guess a single pilot is what, not professional enough for you like but a single lawyer or a single whatever is … your excuse is what stunk the most is all. But, two of the ‘professional whistleblowers seem convinced bin Laden was an American asset till 911 … Michael Scheuer seems to think otherwise? “In 2009, Edmonds revealed that Osama Bin Laden had been working for U.S. intelligence right up to the day of 9/11.&r
You would think that common sense would enter the fray at some point but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Without even a logical approach (there is none) … it is all pointless. Religion is only of use to the believers and there are no ‘problems’ amongst themselves for sure, hahaha. Science doesn’t have anything to do with theology and the only problems I see are when Christianity attempts to drag science into their make believe world to resurrect the morals of
The English language is something else for sure. I think people need to slow down and try harder understanding the context that words are used in. I have never seen so many people (on JU) that seem to have 'pet words' they have predefined just for themselves. Imperialism is one such word. Now I don't know how anyone capable of reading a reasonable dictionary could attach one and only one definition to it ... that is just plain stupid and argumentative and serves no purpose. Brainw
Smoothseas: I have given up trying to find good reason in much of what the USG does and says ... or not. At best the USG is a self-sustaining and self-supporting entity with a life of its own. We the people hold all the votes ... but those people hold all the power ... we lose every time ... most of us just don't know it (won't accept it). However it works out in Pakistan ... I would put my money on the USG to be hip deep in the covert actions. I think their only hope of survival is t
[quote who="Smoothseas" reply="434" id="3043328"]Most "underlings" in government know exactly what they are doing and exactly what they are involved in.[/quote]Are you aware of how many times you used the word "exactly" in this paragraph ... way too many. I don’t know that you are any more qualified than I am in knowing what these people may or may not know and understand … pretty silly don’t you think? I know from experience that shit seldom flows up and information seldom
Since we don't exactly know what was covered up (if anything) ... it is difficult to say how many people needed to have been directly involved. Maybe it was just a few people in authority who could clear NORAD out of the area or a few others who ensured the agencies lacked intercommunications. I don’t think it would necessitate a lot of people as most underlings just follow orders with little thought on why. As far as leaks go … how many whistle blowers are there now …
[quote who="Stant123" reply="26" id="3041662"]The US participates in the spread of democratic ideals, not imperialism.[/quote] Smoothseas ... the comment wasn't mine ... don't get your panties in a wad. There is no doubt in my mind that that was a foolish thing to say. OK, I see hahaha. I don’t like this pasting everyone’s comments over and over again … so I often use quotes and colored text to work someone else’s comments into my reply. I think you sh
Stant123, you haven’t proved anything yet, just sited one example that I still don’t agree with. Personally I think you chose a difficult path here with this Mendel character. He was a learned Christian … what other school would he even want to attend let alone could have … they took him in huh. I read the blurb about taxation but have no idea why taxing religious institutions would inspire anyone to destroy his paperwork? “<span style="background-color: #ffcc0
Stant123, I have no problems myself with Wikipedia as it is a quick short reference for those things I find unappealing and not willing to branch out further. Gregor Mendel is one such figure for me, sorry. I think you missed my point though, I assumed the “ posthumous ” award was delayed because the Church destroyed his work and a rediscovery was necessary because of that. No real matter. The common sense comment was directed at one t
Smoothseas ... the world of gangsters and religion ... could one ask for better bedfellows. Most of the people I chat with here are nobodies like me who actually believe what they preach ... it's that they are so hypocritical in nature. If I am wrong, just show me my error – a little bartering – and we are still friends. Try telling a Christian they are wrong about anything … well you better get your argument in first is all, hahaha. Humm, not about intelligence ... hav
Smoothseas, could you list the URL or the title just because it’s much clearer to view on YouTube. Michael Scheuer is an old salt and I have viewed many of his clips (got to love YT), haven’t seen that one though. Whistleblowers have to be squeaky clean if they are to refute charges of ‘retribution’ not that it’s fair, just the first attack to be expected (sexual innuendos are probable next). I try to take everything into consideration … if possible. Most
Hahaha, that's about all the proof you are want to give on most things. I guess it just makes for short and funny nonsensical snide comments. I wonder who posed that question, naw hehehe ... it wasn't a question at all ... just another silly pointless remark.
bigdave13, I know what it says in Genesis … I was just making a joke, hahaha. I just wanted to hear their answer sorry. Anyone interested in discussing ark logistics vs. science of course hahaha? PS: You clicked on the text color icon instead of the background icon.
[quote who="JcRabbit" reply="687" id="3042207"]I'm puzzled every time someone brings stuff like this (and the abuse of children by priests, for instance) in an effort to put religion into a bad light, as if religion by itself is actually some kind of evil thing.[/quote]It has been my experience that religious folk is what you meant to say ... surely??? Their silver tongues can take something like the ‘Inquisitions’ and the ‘Crusades’ and defend these atrocities as
MortalKhrist, the title is "Science and God" ... not God being science. What does God need science for since everything is just a snap of the fingers (wiggle of the nose) away. Sooo … man (hahaha) was not made privy to the spirit world (check insane asylum clientele?) so we just muddle along as best we can mostly through trial and error, but we are getting there. If one is want to describe our understanding of the world around us and everything in it as our ‘science’, it&rs
[quote who="Jafo" reply="691" id="3042251"]The use of 'man', 'mankind', and even 'men' has always been accepted as inclusive of both sexes....in spite of the idiots of political correctness that would have prayers end in "Apersons".... [/quote]Sorry GW, but Jafo is absolutely correct ... and you are not. Much easier to go with this premise because it sure beats the hell out of "he/she/it" used repeatedly. Has this ridiculous thread now turned to English lessons hahaha.
Smoothseas, guess I have to be more careful huh. I was just responding to the article and what was stated in it. My intent was to slam the USG for their actions in third world countries. I stated they have teeth and that is why the ‘third world’ approach must be taken. We will stir the caldron and incite internal strife (etc.) till our chosen ‘group’ is victorious … if at all, they will be taken down internally ,
Daiwa, so your defense is “… calls could have gotten through ” huh. I provided a source that says differently and this is all you got??? I am quite sure the technology is paramount myself being a technical person. You assume way too much for a healthy conversation. All I said was the calls were faked … I didn’t say they didn’t take place how could I … we have the recordings. If you believe the only way
Smoothseas, I was looking at a 'cover up' as an after action activity is all. Viewing the definition though tells me there are other ways of looking at this. My pore old dictionary has many synonyms but provides only one definition (transitive verb to try to conceal that something illegal, immoral, or undesirable has happened or how or why it happened). Sorry about any confusion. I know the base line story had to be worked out in advance, but I consider that the planning stage where e
Well Smoothseas, seems like you had a good night hahaha. No, I wasn't wondering myself ... as I am still looking for the "one" who does. Not sure what any of this has to do with "intelligent design" though. Whoa ... I get it: this was an example of ID and why it is a delusion ... many people just don't seem very intelligent at times is all ... look at the RCC as a prime example of “Unintelligent Design” hahaha. The nearest spiral galaxy like our own (Messier 3
[quote who="gmc2" reply="685" id="3042167"]I do agree that for most scientists and philosophers the shape of the earth was considered spherical. This dates back to the time of Greek philosophers (4th century BC) even though the flat earth concept was generally accepted in some cultures through the 17th century.[/quote]OK, I can buy this (it is true), but what were the pre-scientists in charge of? How many lost their lives for their heresy. Today a scientist cannot be burned at the stake no ma
All there is to a cover up is to stand firm and deny everything no matter how many times you get cloven by the truth … what is so difficult about that. It just so happens we are discussing the USG here, the ones controlling the media (in cahoots with?). Obviously you haven’t polled the rest of the world on this issue. I don’t know about anyone else but when I hear ‘conspiracy’, I think of religious folk who think the whole world is conspiring for their utter des
When Pakistan signed onto the ‘war on terror’, was there some clause that said they couldn’t change their minds? And if there wasn’t and they do change minds … does that make them “not ours” anymore? I am sure this has nothing to do with the nuclear agreement between India and the USG nor US support for Israel … not rallying point s for Pakistani favor. China and Pakistan seem to be doing better and better and the USG may well have to re
No problems with that one as evidenced by reality ... but you do have to admit that the USG is at least one of the best at covering their debauchery … be that the case here or not. I am sure you have some explanation of why a cover up is unlikely, unfounded or difficult to do for that matter. The cover up is the easy part again as evidenced by reality … whatever was done was the ‘magic’ part and that is what I am after.
[quote who="tetleytea" reply="682" id="3042038"]Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind[/quote]Just as a curiosity ... how does flooding the lands destroy all the fish? I would think gills and whatnot would work well in their favor for survival??? [e digicons]:-"[/e]
JoeUser Forums