[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="26" id="3053306"]It's no BS that the medical scientific community have proven children are far better off with a mother and a father.[/quote]You are so full of yourself. If that is the case, why are there so many single parents? If you knew anything about gays you would have to rethink things ... you are just plain stupid if you continue with this shit, no pun intended. You will never win these kinds of arguments ... as long as free people have rights under
Rightwinger; you need another bible because all you mentioned (and some) is well documented in the ‘real Bible’ or did you miss those passages? Gay marriages exist and always will if not legally (for now) so get over it. Regardless of the law, do you think many self-respecting gays are going to flock to the local church to get hitched … forced on you HOW? Same with abortions … they will continue regardless of the law or the church’s view, so get used to that to
All Intelligent Design is for, just as its predecessor Creationism was for; … to try and debunk evolution. It has been proven by the sciences and upheld by the courts. Does anyone see any intelligence in this clip because I sure don’t??? [video]http://youtu.be/NjsIn7yd2x8[/video] Intelligent Design Theory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjsIn7yd2x8 This is all so stupid …
[quote who="Rightwinger" reply="11" id="3052633"]Wooow; my, my...look at all that hate. Thanks for proving my point so handily.[/quote] Obviously we differ on the definition of hate speech. Maybe you could point out all the "hate" in your quote or are you going to be another who just says things and moves on. If you actually think what I said was 'hate speech' ... it might be better off to move on because you haven't even gotten close to anything resembling hate coming from me ...
[quote who="MortalKhrist" reply="842" id="3052667"]Why do these debates always turn into "Atheists vs Christians"?[/quote]Simple my dear just considering the title of the post. Apparently, there are only two kinds of people in the world, theists and atheists ... where do you expect a conversation entitled “Science and God …” to go if not to the core of the matter. Where would you have it progress?
[quote who="Seleuceia" reply="850" id="3052759"]For the record, and because I think it's only fair people understand where I stand before progressing to properly criticize me, I strongly believe in God...and, I'll be the first to admit I don't have a single good reason to, I just do...I could point to reasons why I have been led to this belief, but ultimately there are no solid reasons why my belief is right or preferential to any other belief...[/quote]This is the most reasonable
Sinperium; if there were a shred of truth in there it has long since passed recognition. The RCC has bastardized everything Biblical with the NT in which they replace the Jewish God (Yahweh) with their upstart who then gives them and only them , dominion over all things … sounds just like modern-day politics to me … business as usual. Christianity will not survive if it remains dominated by RCC canon. I don’t see any pr
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="5" id="3052477"]As far as hate goes, these people hate absolutes, especially Almighty God's Absolutes and that's where Christianity get its "ought" and "ought nots", namely morality. [/quote]Anytime you actually desire to pit Biblical morals against secular morals ... just let me know ok? Lula, (god help me) are you saying that people are not permitted to go elsewhere than the RCC to be 'prope
[quote who="ChuckUSA1" reply="1" id="3049332"]Hypocrisy is a fundamental characteristic of most Americans these days.[/quote] I do not see what hypocrisy has to do with the real world of science. The only hypocrisy I see is when someone whips out their trusty 147th rendition of the Book of Truth into the argument. When is the last time a Muslim or a Buddhist or a “whatever” pressed their arguments here on JU? I have said many times that my disagreement is with all re
Religion is a hot poker in the mind of humanity with its indifference to the facts of life as we know them today. Our sciences would be as remiss as the religious zealots if we didn’t reevaluate our findings and beliefs with the invention/improvement of our technology and our improved knowledge. What in the Bible says we are supposed to be idiots, that we are useful only for kneeling down, praying to their jealous (???) God, donating much to the church coffers, and fantasizing over the
Religion is a hot poker in the mind of humanity with its indifference to the facts of life as we know them today. Our sciences would be as remiss as the religious zealots if we didn’t reevaluate our findings and beliefs with the invention/improvement of our technology and our improved knowledge. What in the Bible says we are supposed to be idiots, that we are useful only for kneeling down, praying to their jealous (???) God, donating much to the church coffers, and fantasizing over the
Stephen Hawking accepts Nephilim Free's challenge to a debate [video]http://youtu.be/7CYZlQBHR_U[/video] Open challenge to Christendom the religious to put up or shut up. I don't have the credentials of my 'master' ... but then again you don't have the credentials of your one God either ... so Justify Intelligent Design if you think you can, hahaha.
Paladin77; every government that has gone-gone has let its people down (hum, or not) … no matter which way they went. As evidence, we only have the ones left therefore … If you think what is happening on Wall Street, housing, with the banks and insurance companies and the USG (today) is an admirable form of Capitalism … especially to be expanding it around the world … well we have a differing opinion of capitalism is all. Anyone foolish enough to “try&rd
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="67" id="3051525"]Depends on the state of their soul at the time of their death.[/quote]How about answering the question; “If they persist in their folly ... can they go to Heaven?” You told me none can enter Heaven without a pure sole and in the same breath you said we are incapable of obtaining a pure sole. So I was theoretically asking like whenever you pay God back for your human inadequacies and birth curse … how about that time …
[quote who="Chasbo" reply="835" id="3051523"]Here's the thing. What you said about Atheists is wrong.[/quote]You will not convince her that anything outside the RCC is good, least of all the opinion of an atheist (I know hahaha). This is not a free country by far ... maybe “free'er” than many but... I speak of Christianity but my arguments are in opposition to all religions ... there are just so many??? The Koran is much more in line with the real world (evolution) because
Smoothseas; I have seen two of the five listed ... but have reviewed many clips from all you mentioned on YouTube. I have them in my list to watch in their entirety. But the question still stands. What are we waiting for and why isn’t anything being done now? We know why the financial markets crashed; we know why the housing market crashed; we know why we went to war in Iraq; we know why the auto industry crashed; etc. And the USG was in total control. If the USG learned anything <span
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="65" id="3051442"]Nah, this isn't CC teaching on Atheism. A Protestant fundamentalist is someone who is not a believer in Catholicism and they are not Atheists.[/quote]If they persist in their folly ... can they go to Heaven?
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="830" id="3051432"] The slavery of Atheism or true freedom in Christ? The choice is ours.[/quote]Lula, I haven't pronounced anything ... I just asked a bunch of questions which you handily dismissed ... as usual. This seems to answer all the questions I had though. I think Stalin, Hitler and many other historical notables seem to have had the same philosophy ... our way or death. This sounds apt for ‘the freedom fighters in the RCC’ to me is all,
stevendedalus, in the eyes of the RCC (always The Point with Lula), anyone who is not a believer in Catholicism is an atheist. They believe in other gods or none at all ... thus many different "kinds" of atheist. They go so far as to state that others who submit to their very own creation are still atheists standing outside of Catholicism. How self-serving can a cult get I wonder? This is a mess not of my making as I believe in the individual human while the Churches like to classify everyone
[quote who="lulapilgrim" reply="828" id="3051398"]A miscarriage happens naturally usually because a problem in the process of development exists, while an abortion is anything but natural.[/quote]Who controls nature??? ... and do not use words like 'usually' when dealing with your one God.
OK, so where do we go from here? We now know much that was masked by confusion and the ‘ever’ pressing need to do "something" ... even something atrocious. The lies and covert objectives have clearly been documented. We have the whistleblowers who I assume are willing to testify 'under oath'. At what point does a government which inflicts its own people with so much needless pain, suffering and injustice ... going to be held accountable for their actions made in the name o
Lula (#825); play your word games all you want, but a dead child to me anyway represents an aborted fetus (human). when your God takes care of business, you call it a miscarriage how quaint is that ... so I was right ... it is ok for you as long as we ourselves aren’t involved. Righteous infanticide just like in the 'good' book is ok as long as Mr. Benign is at the helm. If a miscarriage is not caused by man ... then who or what is the cause. Typical Catholic logic ... why
Sinperium; I am not so interested in myths and faith here ... I am concerned with Jesus at least the 'man' part. The question should have been (always assumed dealing with Lula), "When did the RCC (founders) knew he was a God" because they offer excuses for His entire childhood and early adulthood. To me this means they just don't know ... which prompted me to ask the question. Were they convinced when He was born as the 'Wise Men' who followed the star were? Maybe they le
Lula, when did your Christian fore founders ‘learn’ Jesus was coming or that He was supposed to be a God? I think a good topic for discussion would be “The Life and Times of Jesus on Earth” … considering you made this your ‘life calling’ … your absolute truth? First off, set your Bible aside because that concoction didn’t come about for hundreds of years after the fact … now proceed if you can. Of course, I am more interested in t
I don't know why people in America should take any of this as a surprise ... the writing has been out in the open for sixty years and has progressively gotten worse. I wonder 'how low we can go’. We have been writing about just this kind of corruption for years now. Smoothseas thinks intelligence whistleblowers deserve extra consideration ... and to a point I agree, but few seem to give these guys any more merit that the 911 whistleblowers got. I have researched Central an
JoeUser Forums